Groups Upset over 'Troubled Veteran' Headlines

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"Veterans' advocates on Tuesday slammed headlines and news stories that tied the Washington Navy Yard shooter's military service to the killings.

"There is no evidence that the shooter's military service played any role in causing what happened yesterday," said Phillip Carter, an Iraq War veteran and senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security in Washington. "And yet most of the headlines I've seen suggest that that's not the case, that the reverse is the case."

Carter fired off on one of the earliest criticisms in a tweet to The Washington Post for its Monday afternoon headline: "Navy Yard gunman said to be troubled veteran."

Other papers carried similar headlines or sub-heads: "Gunman was in Navy Reserve; arrested in 2004," the Colorado Gazette noted. "Shooter was in Navy Reserve; worked with Defense Dept," The Tuscaloosa (Ala.) News reported. "Former navy reservist arrested in 2004 Seattle shooting; suffered anger-fueled 'blackout'," said The Fresno (Calif.) Bee in a subhead.

"This is the 'Rambo' narrative that was so dangerous and hurtful to the Vietnam generation come to life," Carter said, referring to "John Rambo," the fictional Vietnam veteran filled with repressed rage who lashes out against American law enforcement after being beaten by a small-town sheriff. "

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""It's a broad brush painting on all of us, and it's totally unfair," he said. It is rare that veterans – regardless of their experiences in the military or in war – resort to violence, Davis said. "We need to protect our own image out there. This is not who we are." "

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"Tom Tarantino, legislative director for Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, said "the fact he was in the military and was a veteran, and may or may not … have had PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), isn't related to the fact he committed a heinous, violent act."

"When reporting facts about his life it is appropriate, but the way it's framed in the media is that, well, he's a veteran, implying there is a causal relationship between being a veteran and having a mental health condition and being violent, when these are not necessarily … or generally related," Tarantino said.

PTSD is a fairly common diagnosis, not only for people in the military but for anyone who has experienced any kind of trauma, he said.

"And nearly 100 percent [of these people] do not commit violent acts," he said. "Not only is it just incorrect but incredibly insulting to millions of men and women who honorable served, who deployed and who defended this country, but also … to thousands who actually are suffering and trying to recover."

"Before it was in TV and film," said Tarantino, who also reference the Rambo character. "Some responsibility you abdicate to TV and movies – they're trying to tell a story, they're not reporting fact. There's a suspension of disbelief you have to live with. But for the media, there's no excuse."
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
Well, they couldn't call him a "troubled black man," now could they? 'Cuz that would be profiling, and profiling's wrong.
 

Tech

Well-Known Member
This is why we can't get anything done. You state a fact and somebody gets their panties in a bunch.
 

Vince

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Aaron Alexis, the gunman who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday before being fatally shot by law enforcement officials, had a Navy record that included several unauthorized absences from duty, instances of insubordination and disorderly conduct, one instance of being absent without leave, and several failed inspections, according to a Navy official.http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...yard-insubordination-20130917,0,5557637.story
This guy was a disciplinary problem when he was in the Navy.
 

Pete

Repete
Someone is ALWAYS upset over something. It always pisses me off when veteran status is used to glorify or justify something unrelated or disassociated.

IE: "Veteran denied (insert something here)" In fact the guy was in some branch for 3 years 25 years ago and he probably has a reason it was denied.

I am sorry Virgil, you do not qualify for a handicap placard for your car because of a sore toe. What? You were in the Air Force in 1983-1987? Well in that case here have 2.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
I do believe his Dad said that he developed PTSD symptoms after helping with recovery efforts at the WTC on 9/11.

But then again that nugget may have come from CNN and they were still oozing over the AR15 Shotgun Alexis used in bldg 197.
 

Pete

Repete
I do believe his Dad said that he developed PTSD symptoms after helping with recovery efforts at the WTC on 9/11.

But then again that nugget may have come from CNN and they were still oozing over the AR15 Shotgun Alexis used in bldg 197.

Thought I heard a report he was 2 or 3 miles from WTC when it was hit and didn't acrually help. Of course that might have been from HuffPo
 

MarieB

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Thought I heard a report he was 2 or 3 miles from WTC when it was hit and didn't acrually help. Of course that might have been from HuffPo


I read that he did not help with the recovery efforts, and I didn't read on HuffPo. It was in several articles
 
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