Hamas and skeptics

[SamSpade]

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas.

Hence the resurgence of the old saw that goes “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”.

Skeptics - Hamas is not hiding it. They’re advertising. They WANT you to see it. That’s their point.

 

[vraiblonde]

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas.

And most times they are the exact same people who insist Trump was colluding with the Russians and Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation.

There are a lot of just effing retarded people in this country.

Now it's possible that this is all a media campaign against Hamas and none of it is true. I'm not there seeing it firsthand. But Hamas and Hezbollah et. al. have a history of doing exactly these things, so we cannot be surprised to see them doing it again. It tracks with what we already know about them.

 

[glhs837]

Just this morning saw body cam footage from one of these animals at the music festival. He was walking down the row of portapotties putting rounds in each one in case someone was hiding in them.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas.

Hence the resurgence of the old saw that goes “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”.

Skeptics - Hamas is not hiding it. They’re advertising. They WANT you to see it. That’s their point.

FIFY

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Israel.

Hence the resurgence of the old saw that goes “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”.

Skeptics - Israel is not hiding it. They’re advertising. They WANT you to see it. That’s their point.

 

[22AcaciaAve]

Israel has reacted. They did not start the conflict by sending IDF planes and rockets into Gaza. They have reacted to the Hamas attack. They have learned to live with occasional rocket attacks from Hamas and Hezbollah. This attack was different. The brutality and depravity shown was not something born out of a war, but out of sheer hatred. Hamas and Iran have a stated goal of the destruction of Israel. Israel does not state the same to it's adversaries. But they do have a policy of revenge on their attackers 10 fold. That does not bode well for the Gaza strip. It is also the only thing the Arab hatred understands.

Israel does not attack any of it's neighbors. They made a peace treaty with Egypt in the Camp David accords in 1979. In 1994 they formally signed a peace treaty with Jordan. They have had no hostilities with either nation since then. Other nations such as Saudi Arabia have been working on the same kinds of peace treaties. I would think that part of the reason is they realize that Israel can transform itself into a war machine within days and some of these countries don't care to be a part of that.

Israel doesn't intentionally attack civilians, but they have acknowledged that collateral damage does happen. They do not pussy foot around. When attacked, they will respond with intensity. As they should. Hamas did not make any effort to attack military structures, they intentionally butchered innocent civilians. This is the way radical Islamists like to operate. Same way they attacked the trade centers on 9/11.

There have been many two state solutions pushed, the Palestinians have rejected all of them. Israelis are open to a two state solution, but not if it gives up any land around Jerusalem. Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and the Palestinians continue to push their agenda that says Israel has no right to exist.

Israel is going to take care of business now. This attack was compared to 9/11. They are going to do what they need to do. Maybe it's time for people to understand that compassion and compromise can only go so far. Israel is going to go into Gaza and do what they have to do to destroy Hamas capabilities. Too bad. Don't poke the bear unless you are sure you can take him down. Now the bear is going to take you out.

Get your popcorn.

 

[SamSpade]

But Hamas and Hezbollah et. al. have a history of doing exactly these things, so we cannot be surprised to see them doing it again. It tracks with what we already know about them.

I wanted to shout to that guy saying “it’s all lies” - so you’re saying the kind of people who strap bombs to their own children or who slowly SAW A JOURNALIST’S HEAD OFF live on the Internet - that such an atrocity isn’t totally believable?

 

[SamSpade]

Women, children, teenagers at a music festival do not fight back. A nation declaring war invades with an army. This is cowardice. You want war, fight a war. Fight a war with Israel, line up your tanks, send your troops, your planes. Fight.

Invading homes and killing helpless civilians in their beds isn’t war.

They’re not just targeting civilians, they’re indiscriminate in their attacks which kill Jews and Muslims alike.

 

[vraiblonde]

Women, children, teenagers at a music festival do not fight back. A nation declaring war invades with an army. This is cowardice. You want war, fight a war. Fight a war with Israel, line up your tanks, send your troops, your planes. Fight.

Invading homes and killing helpless civilians in their beds isn’t war.

They’re not just targeting civilians, they’re indiscriminate in their attacks which kill Jews and Muslims alike.

Well, that's why they're called "terrorists" instead of "warriors" or "soldiers", and why surrounding Muslim countries don't want their rabid asses. Real soldiers don't hide behind children. Plus if they fought like men they'd lose and they know it.

I want to believe there are sane Muslims, just like I wanted to believe there were reasonable Democrats. But time and time again it's proven that everyone who slaps that label on themselves is in fact representative of the group's stereotype. At the very least they have a horrible branding problem and those who don't subscribe to the mental illness should speak up....but they don't.

You never hear "peaceful" Muslims speaking out against the terrorist groups, just like you never hear "moderate" Democrats speak out against the kooks who've taken over their Party. They'll deny up and down that something happened. They'll backpedal and twist hard to skew the facts. They'll demonize the other side. They'll downplay the extremist majority. But they never speak out and disavow what the supposedly fringe element of their group is doing. Which of course should tell us that the so-called extremists aren't fringe at all - they are the group leaders who set the agenda and tone that the rest follow.

 

[CPUSA]

For your consideration ...



FIFY

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Israel.

Hence the resurgence of the old saw that goes “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”.

Skeptics - Israel is not hiding it. They’re advertising. They WANT you to see it. That’s their point.

Maybe you should go be a freedom fighter for Hamas then....
You sound like you agree with what they did...go join them

 

[SamSpade]

Well, that's why they're called "terrorists" instead of "warriors" or "soldiers", and why surrounding Muslim countries don't want their rabid asses. Real soldiers don't hide behind children. Plus if they fought like men they'd lose and they know it.

I want to believe there are sane Muslims, just like I wanted to believe there were reasonable Democrats. But time and time again it's proven that everyone who slaps that label on themselves is in fact representative of the group's stereotype. At the very least they have a horrible branding problem and those who don't subscribe to the mental illness should speak up....but they don't.

You never hear "peaceful" Muslims speaking out against the terrorist groups, just like you never hear "moderate" Democrats speak out against the kooks who've taken over their Party. They'll deny up and down that something happened. They'll backpedal and twist hard to skew the facts. They'll demonize the other side. They'll downplay the extremist majority. But they never speak out and disavow what the supposedly fringe element of their group is doing. Which of course should tell us that the so-called extremists aren't fringe at all - they are the group leaders who set the agenda and tone that the rest follow.

I think it’s kind of like the guy who has a really hot girlfriend who cheats on him and generally treats him like crap - he lets it slide because he IS getting something he wants.

Dems are that way. They have lunatics running the party - but they’re getting SOME of what they want, and the Republicans - the ones they hate - they’re getting their asses handed to them.

I know Muslims hate that terrorists sully their collective reputation - but so very many just harbor such a deep hatred of Jews, part of them still LIKES when they’re attacked.

Just like Dems quietly smiled when Republicans got shot at.

 

[Kyle]

I think it’s kind of like the guy who has a really hot girlfriend who cheats on him and generally treats him like crap - he lets it slide because he IS getting something he wants.

Gloppy Fourths?

 

[GURPS]

I want to believe there are sane Muslims,

Islam is a Death Cult .... silent approval, Muslims are not in the streets protesting Terrorist Activities, many pour into the street and cheer

DEPORT EVERY LAST MUSLIM

 

[GURPS]

But they never speak out and disavow what the supposedly fringe element of their group is doing. Which of course should tell us that the so-called extremists aren't fringe at all - they are the group leaders who set the agenda and tone that the rest follow.

AntiFA and BLM Riots anyone

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Maybe you should go be a freedom fighter for Hamas then....
You sound like you agree with what they did...go join them

I'm waiting for all you blood thirsty savages here to pack up your rifles, along with your adult children and their rifles, and go to Israel to fight on the front lines with the IDF. What are you waiting for? An invitation? Since it seems that all of you are so butt hurt over the BS that is happening over there.

BTW .... Question everything you see and hear!

 

[Ken King]

BTW .... Question everything you see and hear!

Same for you. A little bit of checking around "Aiornot" is not a 100% determiner of fact, it uses a crowdsource voting method to validate its determination and there is evidence that the pro-AI trolls are packing the votes with their bots. But you go ahead and believe what you want.

 

[vraiblonde]

Maybe you should go be a freedom fighter for Hamas then....
You sound like you agree with what they did...go join them

Just don't fall for the old "Take Your Daughter To Work Day"....

 

[Kyle]

 

[vraiblonde]

For your consideration ...



I'm waiting for all you blood thirsty savages here to pack up your rifles, along with your adult children and their rifles, and go to Israel to fight on the front lines with the IDF. What are you waiting for? An invitation? Since it seems that all of you are so butt hurt over the BS that is happening over there.

Weeeeeelllllll...

When was the last time a Jewish person committed an act of terror on US soil?

You must be Palestinian. That's the only reason I can think of why you're cheering on terrorism and demonizing the victims. Rashida Tlaib, is that you?

And if you're not Palestinian, just a plain ol' Muslim, that pretty much proves what I said above about so-called "peaceful Muslims" who aren't really peaceful at all and in fact cheer on the atrocities committed by their zealot brethren.

 

[DaSDGuy]

Over the last few days I’ve come across far too many instances of persons totally skeptical of accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas.

Hence the resurgence of the old saw that goes “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”.

Skeptics - Hamas is not hiding it. They’re advertising. They WANT you to see it. That’s their point.

Difficult for people to see the truth whilst practicing cranial-rectum insertion. All they see from that view is a mirror image of themselves.

 

[SamSpade]

Same for you. A little bit of checking around "Aiornot" is not a 100% determiner of fact, it uses a crowdsource voting method to validate its determination and there is evidence that the pro-AI trolls are packing the votes with their bots. But you go ahead and believe what you want.

Hany Farid says the Israeli photo is not AI and he’s about as expert as you get.

You have to admit - if you were going to FAKE a picture, wouldn’t you alter a photo of a burn victim - instead of a PUPPY! Isn’t it weird that the puppy picture isn’t found earlier? As in - just created? Isn’t it a little weird to have a puppy on a stretcher made for people?

They didn’t fake Daniel Pearl. I swear, his screams as they sawed his head off will never leave my mind. Are we supposed to think that Hamas would never kill babies when they DID slaughter whole households in their beds?