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Treasury's Lew to announce Hamilton to stay on $10 bill
I would have probably preferred to lose Alexander Hamilton. But okay.
I would have probably preferred to lose Alexander Hamilton. But okay.
Harriet Tubman to replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill
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TheLibertonian
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Really? Why? Hamilton is basically the reason we have money.
I was actually really pissed they were replacing Hamilton and NOT Jackson.
As for the choice of Tubman...eh. I think B. Anthony might be a better choice, but Tubman is a Marylander so.
Tilted
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Because Mr. Hamilton was the original - let's expand the powers of the federal government and let's not care too much what the Constitution was really supposed to mean - guy. He argued in favor of adoption of the Constitution, assuring that it would not provide the federal government with too much power. And then, as soon as it was adopted and he got into a position of power within the federal government, he set to work dismantling or otherwise ignoring the limitations (on federal power) built into it.
He's perhaps the earliest highly identifiable villain of U.S. politics. There have been plenty sense, and even others from around the same time, but he in my view is their ideological godfather. We owe, e.g., the ridiculous interpretation of the Tax and Spend Clause as a separate grant of Congressional power in large part to him.
TheLibertonian
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That's fair, but he's still at least contributed something as compared to Andrew Jackson.
Tilted
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He's historically quite significant, yes. But I'm not sure that would be the only, or even the primary, measure I'd use when considering who to celebrate in such ways.
TheLibertonian
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I can live with that argument for replacing Hamilton, but I would still prefer to see Jackson replaced first. Jackson's main historical fame is that he was a massive dick. And unfortunately we can't just put Ben Franklin on every single bill because people would get confused.
TheLibertonian
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Because up until 1928 Andrew Jackson was not on the bill and it was changed to him on the 100th year after he became president.
Money used to change fairly often.
1861: A demand note with Lady Liberty holding a sword and shield on the front, and an abstract design on the back. The back is printed green.
1862: A note that is very similar, the first $20 United States note. The back is different, with several small variations extant.
1863: A gold certificate $20 note with an Eagle vignette on the face. The reverse has a $20 gold coin and various abstract elements. The back is orange.
1865: A national bank note with "The Battle of Lexington" and of "Pocahontas" in black, and a green border.
1869: A new United States note design with Alexander Hamilton on the left side of the front and Victory holding a shield and sword. The back design is green.
1875: As above, except with a different reverse.
1878: A silver certificate $20 note with a portrait of Stephen Decatur on the right side of the face. The back design is black.
1882: A new gold certificate with a portrait of James Garfield on the right of the face. The back is orange and features an eagle.
1882: A new national bank note. The front is similar, but the back is different and printed in brown.
1886: A new silver certificate $20 note with Daniel Manning on the center of the face.
1890: A treasury (coin) note with John Marshall on the left of the face. Two different backs exist: both with abstract designs.
1902: A new national bank note. The front design features Hugh McCulloch, and the back has a vignette of an allegorical America.
1905: A new gold certificate $20 note with George Washington on the center of the face. The back design is orange.
1914: Began as a large-sized note with a portrait of Grover Cleveland on the face, and, on the back, a steam locomotive and an automobile approaching from the left, and a steamship approaching from the right.
1918: A federal reserve bank note with Grover Cleveland on the front, and a back design similar to the 1914 Federal Reserve Note.
1928: Switched to a small-sized note with a portrait of Andrew Jackson on the face and the south view of the White House on the reverse. The banknote is redeemable in gold or silver (at the bearer's discretion) at any Federal Reserve Bank.
There's no reason for this static existence really.
steppinthrax
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I was waiting for someone to say something like this. Either that or make some disparaging remark on how a black woman can replace a white man.
steppinthrax
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Also the sakakawea dollar that didn't survive.
You sure do wear that issue right out there on your sleeve. Nobody makes the first mention of it..so you feel compelled to.
Sad.
smdh.
steppinthrax
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Hijinx was the first one to say it, just in a "coded way".
ah yes..the infamous "code"....
You need to get a grip..or get help. Last I checked "perpetually butthurt and aggrieved" does not pay real well for all bu a very few.
steppinthrax
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I'm cool, just stating the obvious.
Hijinx
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Well you got your wish, Now make an argument for why it isn't politically correct Bullsh1t.
Gender, race, Whatever doesn't change the fact It's politically correct Bullsh1t
Restitution
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I would rather see MLK on there. Something a bit more recent ya' know?
Larry Gude
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Sincere question; why do you care? What if they wanted to put Rush Limbaugh on there? Reagan? Is this a matter of personal preference? Or you simply don't want anything to ever change?
TheLibertonian
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Fredrick Douglas. I want a marylander in full view for the world to see damnit