Havard Setting Aside Special Hours For Muslims

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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Oh please. It's only a couple hours a week and shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm assuming that non-Muslim women can use the gym at that time, too, right? So they can make it "fair" by having a few hours a week that are for men only.
 
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White Buddah

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Where are the men only hours?? I don't understand how it's "fair" for women to work out whenever the gym is open but men can't. If it's so offensive for men to see their hair and some more skin, why not cover it up while working out??? Aren't they going against their beliefs by uncovering anyhow yet they get women only time at the gym?? Let's see how sissified we can make this country. What a crock!!
 

mtordie

New Member
Any bets how long it takes for ACLU to get involved? Harvard isn't revisiting the policy till the end of the semester.
 

ImnoMensa

New Member
Oh please. It's only a couple hours a week and shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm assuming that non-Muslim women can use the gym at that time, too, right? So they can make it "fair" by having a few hours a week that are for men only.

Yeah ,its no big deal, just like CFR and losing that portion of free speech is no big deal.
We just take a piece here and a piece there none of them are big deals.

You take a little here and a little there and before you know it they have it all.

Ignore Muslim victories at your own peril. Even the small ones. The Brits are finding that out --slowly.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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Yeah ,its no big deal, just like CFR and losing that portion of free speech is no big deal.
We just take a piece here and a piece there none of them are big deals.

If it was women in general who wanted a few hours to work out without men around, would you still have a problem with it? And would this be news at all?

This sort of thing annoys me. You take an issue with a valid point - catering to Muslim religious demands - then start picking at every single little thing until the issue becomes so stupid and petty that nobody cares anymore.

Harvard is a private university. They can do what they want. If the US government starts segregating, NOW there is a problem. It's like the taxi drivers who won't pick up certain passengers - who cares? Then they can either freelance or not have a job. To me, that's pretty simple and not worth discussing.
 

vegmom

Bookseller Lady
Last I checked there were plenty of "women only" gyms out there and they were created for women of all persuasions, not just Muslims. Most of us don't like being oogled while exercising, and I'd assume that goes double for women who's religions require a certain extra level of modesty (Baptist school I went to had segregated gym classes).
 
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RadioPatrol

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Muslim women who say it offends their sense of modesty to exercise in front of the opposite sex.


I am sure there is a Mosque somewhere in Boston that can cater to this ....
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Last I checked there were plenty of "women only" gyms out there and they were created for women of all persuasions, not just Muslims. Most of us don't like being oogled while exercising, and I'd assume that goes double for women who's religions require a certain extra level of modesty (Baptist school I went to had segregated gym classes).

That is fine, women and men know that going in and women pay to go to that gym. These people on the other hand are paying tution and fees, which include the facilities of the University. Now, you go and make and exception for Muslim women and the men who are already got their work out schedule now have to cater to the schedule for another group even though that group is paying for the faclilities just the same.

What's next shut down the cafeteria for a few hours during the day to make sure pork products are not being eaten at the same time?
 

mtordie

New Member
That is fine, women and men know that going in and women pay to go to that gym. These people on the other hand are paying tution and fees, which include the facilities of the University. Now, you go and make and exception for Muslim women and the men who are already got their work out schedule now have to cater to the schedule for another group even though that group is paying for the faclilities just the same.

What's next shut down the cafeteria for a few hours during the day to make sure pork products are not being eaten at the same time?

Touche`
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
That is fine, women and men know that going in and women pay to go to that gym. These people on the other hand are paying tution and fees, which include the facilities of the University. Now, you go and make and exception for Muslim women and the men who are already got their work out schedule now have to cater to the schedule for another group even though that group is paying for the faclilities just the same.

What's next shut down the cafeteria for a few hours during the day to make sure pork products are not being eaten at the same time?
:yeahthat:

And Vrai, it is a big deal when muslim cabdrivers won't pick up blind passengers because of their dogs. There was a problem at a Minnesota Airport because of this. Can you imagine being blind and having to stand there in the freezing cold for an extra 20 minutes because some stinky ignorant former goatherd muslim immigrant thinks your dog is unclean?
 
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White Buddah

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yeah, the freedom to hate is right there between 'to bear arms' and 'free speech'

:sarcasm:

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Thank you for the red!
What is wrong with "some stinky ignorant former goatherd muslim immigrant"? It might offend someone. BFD
Oh no, can't say that, feelings might be hurt. Give me a break! If they love this country so much, and choose to be a cabbie, they should do their job. If they want special treatment just because of their religion they should move back to their home land and start changing things there to better themselves.
 

Sonsie

The mighty Al-Sonsie!
yeah, no bigotry there.....

I couldn’t care less if you think I’m a bigot. Having spent a lot of time in the Middle East and having experienced TRUE bigotry and misogyny all I can say is these worthless immigrant f@#ks who refuse to assimilate and want us to change can kiss my @ss. We’ve all had PC shoved so far down our throats for so long we are afraid to make certain demands of people who want to come here. Well I’ve had enough. If you want to live in this country you should get no special treatment!

If you were born here and are part of a medieval religious cult that believes women need to be oppressed/hidden from sight why should special allowances be made for you? If there were some kind of Christian fundies who espoused the same desires do you honestly think any special treatment would be granted by Harvard? How about if Orthodox Jews wanted their own special time too? That's laughable. Would ANY group get special treatment other than Muslims? I seriously doubt it.

But of course we must remember that Saudi’s have been pumping money into American universities for years. Harvard received over $22M from the Wahhabi Lobby a few years back. I guess that buys Muslims there special treatment nobody else receives.
 
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tiny_dancer33

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Hokay...sorry to drag this up after it's been peaceful for a few months, but...

as someone who had the opportunity to use Harvard's Malkin athletic center shortly after this announcement, and someone pretty familiar with Harvard policies for students, I can tell you that it is not only Muslim students who receive special treatments at this school whenever they are requested. Colleges like this that have the opportunity to keep students content whenever they can, will.

Example: Yale University dormitories require electronic swipe cards, Prox Cards, to enter residential buildings from the outside. Shortly after I received many of my early registration papers, I also received a letter from the Jewish Students Organization (and I am not Jewish, they sent it to every student), asking me to send notification if, as an Orthodox Jew, it was against my religion to use electronics on the Sabbath, in which case they arranged for a special lock system for every Orthodox Jewish student to enter their buildings without fear of divine retribution. Tell me that isn't accomodating. I was told that Harvard also acknowledged a request last year from a Women's Christian Values (promoting modesty, etc.) student group that they not have to witness students of the opposite sex in inappropriate clothing within their own dormitory - Harvard set off a special floor in one of the upperclassman dorms for these kids so they wouldn't have to see guys in boxer shorts walking up and down the stairs early in the morning. Again with the accomodation.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Oh please. It's only a couple hours a week and shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm assuming that non-Muslim women can use the gym at that time, too, right? So they can make it "fair" by having a few hours a week that are for men only.
You can wait an hour while I eat in a smoke free environment right? No big deal right? :killingme
 
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