Help, help, help!

[pcjohnnyb]

Ladies......y'all chill.......

Thank you.

Its almost the damn weekend. Cool down time

 

[Cyurius]

That is EXACTLY what you said.

You said that the woman is ultimately responsible.

Hey little boy, the woman has the decision to HAVE the baby. Yes, it takes two to make a baby, but the woman can decide to terminate or give the baby up for adoption. Now how about .

 

[sockgirl77]

Hey little boy, the woman has the decision to HAVE the baby. Yes, it takes two to make a baby, but the woman can decide to terminate or give the baby up for adoption. Now how about .

And when a man decides to have unprotected sex, he makes the decision to have a baby.

 

[Debbie92454]

No, they are not - not in child support. Daycare and medical insurance are the only two items considered on a child support guidelines worksheet.

And the child will not be appointed a lawyer - only if custody was in jeopardy and the child would become a ward of the State.

The child support office will assign an attorney to represent the custodial parent. She should really contact the child support office, if she hasn't done so already. Most likely, the documents she received were a courtesy copy to her - not for her to act upon.

Then things have changed as I had to show all that when my ex tried to get his payment reduced and they assigned a lawyer for my daughter as well. My daughter is grown now and doesn't have to worry about that any more. As a matter of fact we dropped him when she was 16 as my now husband adopted her. He didn't contest it

 

[queencity28]

And when a man decides to have unprotected sex, he makes the decision to have a baby.

Whatever....you know that is not what a man is thinking when he pulls out his tool. he's thinking about getting a piece of tail. He is not saying....tonight i want to be a responsible father.

That is exactly why the birth control pill caused a revolution in the 60's, because women are now in control of their futures. That is exactly why Roe vs. Wade made it possible for us to choose. That is exactly why you can find adoption agencies in every area across the damn country.

Yes, a man has a moral obligation to take care of his children. If he chooses not too, that is between him and his child and whatever God he prays to....it should not be up to the court. Our judicial system should not be burdened with scorned women who are looking for someone to pay their bills. Our courts should not be the tissue that dries your eyes when you've been left high and dry because you made a bad choice in picking a mate.

Take DSS Child support enforcement as an example. Really, the checks and balances:

*the tax payer dollars spent rounding up these worthless dudes
*supplying dna testing so the breeders can actually find out who's the daddy *then going back after them again when they are in contempt of the order......

Who is it helping? The kids or you? All it does is create an even greater rift between the father and the child because now you want to get even. If you picked a bad one and he left you and your kids, deal with it and get a second job.

I'd like to see the whole child support system eradicated. Then maybe young girls won't think it's cute to play house when they are too young to know what they are getting into and maybe women will make better choices when they choose a mate.

 

[Cyurius]

And when a man decides to have unprotected sex, he makes the decision to have a baby.

No, he makes the decision to MAKE a baby, not HAVE a baby. How come a woman can decide to abort if she can't afford, doesn't have time for, doesn't want a baby....but a man has NO say in the matter? So, if a woman is single and sleeps with a loser and gets pregnant, she has the choice to have the baby, abort the baby, or give the baby up for adoption. If he says he doesn't want anything to do with said baby, can't afford it, etc, he has no say. It's still her decision to HAVE and KEEP the baby.

 

[Go G-Men]

I know parents that got hit for child support so hard they were nearly homeless.

I've seen one parent belittle the ex and tell them to get a promotion because the first parent needed more child support.

I've know a parent that gets $1500/month, then works under the table as a bartender 3 days a week pulling 3K/month. That parent also tells the kids the other parent doesn't love them, while the ex works three jobs and eats ramen noodles and peanutbutter day in and day out, buys the kids all there school supplies and clothes, and literally BEGS to get time with the kids!

From what I've seen "child support" is rarely about the children. On both sides, it's about screwing over the the ex-spouse.

Bing F@@king GO

 

[SShewbert]

Whatever....you know that is not what a man is thinking when he pulls out his tool. he's thinking about getting a piece of tail. He is not saying....tonight i want to be a responsible father.

That is exactly why the birth control pill caused a revolution in the 60's, because women are now in control of their futures. That is exactly why Roe vs. Wade made it possible for us to choose. That is exactly why you can find adoption agencies in every area across the damn country.

Yes, a man has a moral obligation to take care of his children. If he chooses not too, that is between him and his child and whatever God he prays to....it should not be up to the court. Our judicial system should not be burdened with scorned women who are looking for someone to pay their bills. Our courts should not be the tissue that dries your eyes when you've been left high and dry because you made a bad choice in picking a mate.

Take DSS Child support enforcement as an example. Really, the checks and balances:

*the tax payer dollars spent rounding up these worthless dudes
*supplying dna testing so the breeders can actually find out who's the daddy *then going back after them again when they are in contempt of the order......

Who is it helping? The kids or you? All it does is create an even greater rift between the father and the child because now you want to get even. If you picked a bad one and he left you and your kids, deal with it and get a second job.

I'd like to see the whole child support system eradicated. Then maybe young girls won't think it's cute to play house when they are too young to know what they are getting into and maybe women will make better choices when they choose a mate.

So.... Because a man does not think about using a condom and just assumes that the lady is on something its ok and he should not be held responisble? So he should assume that she will take care of the birth control but she cant assume that of him? I dont give a darn if he is thinking about birth control or not when he whips it out. The point is he should be just the same as she should be and therefore should both have to pay for the child to raise it.

 

[Go G-Men]

why do you need more money if your salary has gone up?

Because he has more!!! That much is obvious...

 

[Go G-Men]

The bottome line is that we women make a choice when we choose to procreate. If the man you chose is a POS, well then you should learn your lesson now and not make the same mistake the next time around.

Think about it, we have a choice from the beginning. If we chose not to use birth control, we had a choice to abort. If we choose not to abort, then there is also the option of adoption.

What choice does the man have? All he can say when you tell him you are pregnant is "So what are we going to do?"

I'm sure this is going to rub alot of women the wrong way, but I'm sick and tired of grown women b****ing about not getting child support. Your kid is not a meal ticket. Suck it up. Yes, it's expensive to have children. Think about that every morning as a reminder to take your damn pill. Stop being greedy and vengeful.

And then, when these ex's or one night stands are finally put up for child support, you want to complain that he has nothing to do with his child. You know why? It is because you turned what could have been a family issue into a legal issue.

I have three of my own. There was a long period of time when my SO had issues and I wouldn't take the "fall" with him, so I left. Guess what I did? I supported my kids on my own. And not once did I let them know that daddy wasn't helping. Yeah, I couldn't make monthly trips to the hair salon, had to wear my winter clothes in the summer, had to go from a cell phone plan to a Tracfone. But I did it, because I am their mother and it was my choice to bring them into this world so the ultimate responsibility lies with me to make sure they have the best life that I can provide.

All I have to say is BRAVO!!!

 

[queencity28]

So.... Because a man does not think about using a condom and just assumes that the lady is on something its ok and he should not be held responisble? So he should assume that she will take care of the birth control but she cant assume that of him? I dont give a darn if he is thinking about birth control or not when he whips it out. The point is he should be just the same as she should be and therefore should both have to pay for the child to raise it.

No, that is not what I'm saying. A man should take care of his kids. But if he doesn't, then it is a lesson learned. So don't try to skew my words and make it seem like I'm saying that only women are responsible here.

We fought for equal rights yet we're the first one's to cry foul and give up the control when it comes to bring our children into this world. How about we stop placing the blame and start making wiser choices.

And a man has 2 choices, wear a condom or abstain. Obviously, population statistics prove that those 2 choices don't always occur. We women have many many choices out there that men do not have. Unfortunately, it has been a given for decades that if a man doesn't stick around to raise his kids, that we can fight back by attacking his pockets.

Take that ability away, and what would it lead to? Most likely it would lead to women like our grandmothers and great grandmothers and the many generations before....the ones who had to face the end result of the choices they made. Did they have the luxury of child support? Hell no.

 

[Go G-Men]

She now has daycare expenses. She'll get it.

But if the child care cost less than the ladies salary than it should be reduced... Based on your logic anyway.

 

[Go G-Men]

You know ever since you've befriending Kris, you've been a real biatch to me. I have never done anything to you. A few days ago I was arguing with someone in here and it had NOTHING to do with you. Yet, you jumped my shiat about it.
I am not whining or biatching about not get my CS. I survive without it. And YES, I do feel like I am entitled to it.

Just for the record.... You are not entitled to it... Your child is entitled to it...

 

[SShewbert]

No, that is not what I'm saying. A man should take care of his kids. But if he doesn't, then it is a lesson learned. So don't try to skew my words and make it seem like I'm saying that only women are responsible here.

We fought for equal rights yet we're the first one's to cry foul and give up the control when it comes to bring our children into this world. How about we stop placing the blame and start making wiser choices.

And a man has 2 choices, wear a condom or abstain. Obviously, population statistics prove that those 2 choices don't always occur. We women have many many choices out there that men do not have. Unfortunately, it has been a given for decades that if a man doesn't stick around to raise his kids, that we can fight back by attacking his pockets.

Take that ability away, and what would it lead to? Most likely it would lead to women like our grandmothers and great grandmothers and the many generations before....the ones who had to face the end result of the choices they made. Did they have the luxury of child support? Hell no.

I agree that women are not making good choices. They should be on birth control of some sort if they are having sexual relations unless they are insisting on him using a condom and leaving if he does not. Women did fight for equal rights and therefore should be held responisble for their decisions. I am just saying though that if they both make the decision to have unprotected sex they should both have to pay and I do not see any reason for not taking him to court to get it if that is what it takes. If the court agrees with child support and he then does not pay it well then you just have to step up and deal with it. I am sorry if I am misunderstanding what you are saying.

 

[sockgirl77]

Just for the record.... You are not entitled to it... Your child is entitled to it...

Just for the record... Since I am the one paying the bills such as rent, food, electric and such, I am entitled to it.

 

[Merlin99]

I'm going to track down JPC and tell him to get in here. That'll teach you to keep child support threads alive.

 

[redneck_woman]

I guess we all have different situations as far as going after the absent parent for child support. A woman and man both know the risk of having unprotected sex and there shouldn't be know excuses for either.

Not to air my laundry, but I was married for 5yrs, we had a child during that marriage, that we both agreed to have and he decided the grass was greener on the other side (which it wasn't). Well he quit his job for no reason, that supplied health insurance for his child, as well as the other necessities, I was a stay at home mom and did daycare. Had to stop doing that to get back to work to provide the health insurance, while he remained unemployed. Done what I had to do as a single parent to make it and you better believe I went after his a$$ for child support. He was not a POS while married, but he gave into temptation, had another child within 9 months of us being separated and moved south, still umemployed. To make a long story short, he has know contact with his child, nor has he seen him in 3yrs and you better believe the POS pays child support. My child was emotionally affected by this, but has since made a complete 360 and has now accepted his situation. With unconditional love, more love and the fact that he I knows I am not going anywhere, he is the kid he use to be.

So we all have different reasons for going after the parent for child support, does that make us a bad person or shows that we are weak? I don't believe so. There was mention of working a 2nd job, sounds good, that is if daycare doesn't bust your a$$ open. Sure we can use family and friends, but come on after a while they get tired of it. Anyhow sorry for rambling on....

 

[Queenofdenile1]

There is one excellent reason why I don't have kids...but no, I don't know of anyone. I wish you luck!!

I can't understand how people (men or women) can produce children and then walk away from the responsibility and not want to take care or help in taking care of their kids. Whether it's financial or by some other means, I just don't understand it. BIRTH CONTROL!!! BIRTH CONTROL!!! Not to be shi$$y, but sometimes I wonder if some people shouldn't be spade and neutered like dogs.

 

[redneck_woman]

There is one excellent reason why I don't have kids...but no, I don't know of anyone. I wish you luck!!

I can't understand how people (men or women) can produce children and then walk away from the responsibility and not want to take care or help in taking care of their kids. Whether it's financial or by some other means, I just don't understand it. BIRTH CONTROL!!! BIRTH CONTROL!!! Not to be shi$$y, but sometimes I wonder if some people shouldn't be spade and neutered like dogs.

I was on birth control and went off it when we BOTH decided to have a child. He gave into temptation and the rest is history. It has been a rough road with the little one because he went from having a full time daddy to nothing. He also had to go through 3 major surgury's w/out his dad too. I have gave him all the love and patience's I could offer and still do so. To be honest none of the ex's family has anything to do with him. But they will be the ones that regret it in due time. Meanwhile I am enjoying every bit of it....

I agree 100% about some people should be spayed and neutered like dogs....

 

[sockgirl77]

Spayed.