Hey Phyx

Loper

Animal Poor!
Do you have any good websites for photo composition? Some that explain composition?

Thanks :howdy:
 

Phyxius

Zoooooooom
http://www.colorpilot.com/comp_rules.html

Composition for riding? Horse portraits, landscapes, people? There are tons of composition "rules" some of which don't apply in every situation. Here's a website with a bunch of articles. I wouldn't take anything as gospel, but it shows a lot of opinions and examples.
http://photoinf.com/

Big things...
Rule of Thirds- Basically it breaks up the imagine into thirds both vertically and horizontally, making 9 boxes, and four intersections. The eye is naturally drawn to these intersections and placing what you believe to be important on one of these interesections draws the viewers attention to this point and it makes for a more natural balanced image.

Like here - http://phyxius.smugmug.com/photos/174612426-M-1.jpg - if I divided the picture into thirds vertically a line would be going through Dougie.



Diagonals- Diagonal lines fill frames, but also offer something different for the viewer.
http://phyxius.smugmug.com/photos/168982841-M.jpg



Fill the Frame -
Noone wants to squint to try to see the subject. Fill the frame!
http://phyxius.smugmug.com/photos/173431260-M.jpg


Room to Breathe -
Kind of in direct contrast with the above, you want to allow certain objects breathing room. For example, if you're photographing a horse in motion you'll want to make sure that the horse has room to move, so that he/she doesn't appear "trapped" in the frame.
http://phyxius.smugmug.com/photos/129551196-M-4.jpg

Sports Photographers usually subscribe to the theory of shoot close, crop closer. With horses you generally DON'T want to do that. Some shots are wonderful cropped close, many just look cut-off or un-planned.
 

devinej

New Member
hey photographers, gotta question for you. I have a digital camera, but no real photo editing program other than what come with microsoft office. i need to make some really good print quality photos. when i load them on my computer they show up as 150 dpi but i want more like 300 dpi, but microsoft picture editor doesn't have a way to change dpi. I asked canon if i change it on the camera and they said no, you change it in your photo editing program. does this mean i have to buy photoshop? eeek..
 

Phyxius

Zoooooooom
Or you can send them to me and I'll do it for you when I get home tonight. :)

I'm not sure if GIMP does or not....check it out

www.gimp.org

Also, most cameras shoot at 72dpi. Changing it to 300dpi as required by most publications is just silly. It creates HUGE files to transfer around when they could easily do it themselves. It takes about 5 seconds.
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
:huggy: Thanks Phyx!!!! I was just looking for guidelines basically. So you posted exactly what I wanted... :razz:
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
devinej said:
hey photographers, gotta question for you. I have a digital camera, but no real photo editing program other than what come with microsoft office. i need to make some really good print quality photos. when i load them on my computer they show up as 150 dpi but i want more like 300 dpi, but microsoft picture editor doesn't have a way to change dpi. I asked canon if i change it on the camera and they said no, you change it in your photo editing program. does this mean i have to buy photoshop? eeek..

Hey devinej,
My camera shoots 72dpi. I've never had to up it for prints. do you know what size pics your camera takes? My old camera took 8 mega pixels and I had 2 pics printed at 20x30 and they were really nice. I guess it depends on what you are looking for and how big of prints you want. Or is this for a publication? If it's for an actual print let me know, I can print up to 13x19 prints here at home. You could bring them over on a cd and we could play with them and print them. :huggy:
BTW thanks for working Loper (the pony not me) today.
 

devinej

New Member
ooh cool. ya, i'm getting prepared to be a wedding photographer for a friend of mine...putting on the pressure for nice looking pics. so i don't actually have the pics yet, but i need to play around with printing from my camera which i haven't actually done yet. where do you all get your prints made? does that make a difference? (or do you have your own printers?) i for fun got one done through flickr.com and it was OK but not wedding photo quality. its a 5x7.
i will play around on gimp and see what i can do.
 

Phyxius

Zoooooooom
I print through my smugmug galleries, they contract out through EZ Prints.
And, they (smugmug) garuntee the quality.

http://www.smugmug.com/help/print-guarantee

(They galleries are not cheap, but they are top notch with customer service by REAL people who e-mail you back quickly. If you decide to go with them here's a $5 coupon code F9TPNYjqI2sCM They have 2 week free trials as well.)
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
devinej said:
ooh cool. ya, i'm getting prepared to be a wedding photographer for a friend of mine...putting on the pressure for nice looking pics. so i don't actually have the pics yet, but i need to play around with printing from my camera which i haven't actually done yet. where do you all get your prints made? does that make a difference? (or do you have your own printers?) i for fun got one done through flickr.com and it was OK but not wedding photo quality. its a 5x7.
i will play around on gimp and see what i can do.

I print all mine myself. I like to have the control over the pics. Not as cheap but oh well, I know what I'm getting before hand. :lmao:
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
devinej said:
hey photographers, gotta question for you. I have a digital camera, but no real photo editing program other than what come with microsoft office. i need to make some really good print quality photos. when i load them on my computer they show up as 150 dpi but i want more like 300 dpi, but microsoft picture editor doesn't have a way to change dpi. I asked canon if i change it on the camera and they said no, you change it in your photo editing program. does this mean i have to buy photoshop? eeek..

What type of camera are you using?
 

devinej

New Member
its a canon powershot S3 IS. SLR. way too digital and automatic for my tastes but hey its pretty cool too. i'm going to take my film camera to the wedding as well.
well GIMP does change dpi! whoo hoo! but that also means that it shrinks the print size of the picture? hmmm i confused. there are some pics that an Appy magazine wanted in 300 dpi which i changed. i hope they don't mind that they also shrank in size.
 

Phyxius

Zoooooooom
Ahhh, yes to TRULY change the DPI you have to change the size of the image. If you change the resolution with out changing the dimensions you get what is called unsampling. This adds more pixels per inch, but also makes for blurry, boxy images.

Since most cameras shoot at 72dpi, you'll need to reduce the size of the image to 24% (approx one fourth) to get the 300dpi you need.

If you're scanning printed images you can set the scanner to scan at 300 dpi. Or, if you need to enlarge the image you can do that while scanning as well.

Lots of info on resolution as it pertains to print. http://www.printingforless.com/resolution.html

More info on upping resolution, printing, etc.
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=66441&highlight=resolution+dpi
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64540&highlight=resolution+dpi


If you shoot RAW you can select what DPI output your camera gives you when you use your RAW editor. :)
http://www.phyxius.smugmug.com/photos/177695224-L.jpg
Here you can see that I have resolution set to 240dpi. (Below the picture, next to the box that says resolution.)
 
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