House passes Iraq withdrawal timetable
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awpitt
Main Streeter
Bustem' Down said:
GW will veto it and there's not enough support for an over ride so it's pretty much dead on arrival.
Lenny
Lovin' being Texican
awpitt said:
Did the Senate approve the same bill? If not, they have an opportunity to abort this thing.
However, Nancy and Harry (Steny really) want to be able to blame the president for the soldiers in Irak being denied up-armor, etc. After they get their headlines and soundbites on the air, they'll pass a more grounded bill without the poison pill.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
The article says
...that it was negotiated with the Senate (read Dem majority) so, it should go straight to the floor for a vote.
Maybe W takes the high road and says "This can't wait and I gotta have the money for the troops" and signs it?
That would be a disaster for Democrats because the one thing they don't want is to get their hands stuck in the Iraq tar baby; The surge is agreed to be working. It gets cut short due to Dem demands. Now it's their responsibility as well.
Hmmm.
Lenny said:
...that it was negotiated with the Senate (read Dem majority) so, it should go straight to the floor for a vote.
Maybe W takes the high road and says "This can't wait and I gotta have the money for the troops" and signs it?
That would be a disaster for Democrats because the one thing they don't want is to get their hands stuck in the Iraq tar baby; The surge is agreed to be working. It gets cut short due to Dem demands. Now it's their responsibility as well.
Hmmm.
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Yes, but that still does not give the military it's money. The Democrats are holding us hostage.awpitt said:
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
He doesn't, he want to see us get the money. The Democrats are holding the military hostage by passing it. Pelosi is too busy play acting Sec of State to care about the military.forestal said:
Why do you hate the troops and the United States? Why don't you move to Iran? Why don't you shut up? Why do you insist on using air that could be used by some deserving species?forestal said:
awpitt
Main Streeter
Bustem' Down said:
Both side are holding the military hostage. There’s plenty of blame to go around. It’s irresponsible for the President to expect to run this war without accountability to the other braches of govt. Yes, I think I’ve read that somewhere. It’s also irresponsible for the Congress to set blatant timetables for withdrawal. That risks turning our deployed forces into tactical lame ducks. Both the President and Congress need to grow the F up and handle this in a mature and professional manner.
I disagree with that. Bush said at the get-go that he wouldn't approve a bill that included a timetable for withdrawal. Congress went ahead and passed it anyway, knowing full well it was going to be DOA.awpitt said:
Ideally they'd have gotten with him and said, "Well, what WILL you sign?" and negotiated it from there. But they didn't, so I say the blame sits squarely on their shoulders.
awpitt
Main Streeter
vraiblonde said:
Nope. They DID go to the WH and Bush wouldn’t budge. It was his way or the highway. The Dems won’t budge either. Bush wants to run this with no oversight as if he’s a dictator. That’s dangerous. The Congress is trying to put out deadlines and that’s dangerous. The actions of the executive branch are subject to oversight. That’s why the Constitution gives the purse strings, the power to declare war, the power to approve treaties, etc. to the Congress. I wish people would stop trying to blame one side or the other. Bottom line, they all need to grow the F up.
