Hung Jury?!?!?!

mAlice

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Anyone know the statistics on this? I heard that when a case is re-tried due to a hung jury that the second trial will typically result in a guilty verdict.
 
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Kizzy

Guest
I am hoping that this is just the fact that they do have a whole lot of evidence to review and discuss, and that this will not get dragged out any longer than it has already been for the family.
 
Penn

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
How would you like to be an alternate juror on the Laci Peterson case?

Is that trial proceeding messed up, or what?

They booted one of the jurors off the panel because she aparently went on the internet to do some of her own research of the case.

It seems the only information you can use is what was presented at the trial.

I didn't know that myself.:shrug:
 
kwillia

kwillia

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Penn said:
I didn't know that myself.:shrug:
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They are very particular as to what is allowed in the courtroom, why would anyone even remotely consider it to be okay to do ones own research...:confused:
 
happyappygirl

happyappygirl

Rocky Mountain High!!
Penn writes: It seems the only information you can use is what was presented at the trial.


The pretrial instructions tell you this don't they?
Oh gee if it's on the internet it must be true.....are they sequestered? (sorry no spell check in quick reply)
 
Penn

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
happyappygirl said:
Penn writes: It seems the only information you can use is what was presented at the trial.


The pretrial instructions tell you this don't they?
Oh gee if it's on the internet it must be true.....are they sequestered? (sorry no spell check in quick reply)
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Well, this is going to make some people go: Really??

But, the truth is I've never been called for jury duty, have never watched a pre-trial proceeding, so I'm not up on the rules that they issue for proper trial conduct.

What can I say?
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Do we all agree...

...that trials that go on this long are insane?

I mean, what kind of people do you get on a jury where they can afford to have their lives stop indefintely? Certainly not his peers.

He offed the wife and kid so he could get on with the party. How can he be judged by people who have nothing better to do?

Is there, really, any reason why a murder case should not be tried in, say, a month from arrest? Tops?
 
Ken King

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Hell no!

Larry Gude said:
...that trials that go on this long are insane?
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I think the amount spent will be what it will be. The prosecution could have a ton of evidence and it needs to be presented and then the defense gets their turn at the plate. The amount of time spent means nothing to me.
I mean, what kind of people do you get on a jury where they can afford to have their lives stop indefintely? Certainly not his peers.
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Me. I get court leave. Hoping one day to have my shot on a jury.
He offed the wife and kid so he could get on with the party. How can he be judged by people who have nothing better to do?
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Allegedly, it hasn’t become a fact of law yet. As to the people deciding if he is convicted or acquitted they might have better things to do but they decided to perform their civic duty.
Is there, really, any reason why a murder case should not be tried in, say, a month from arrest? Tops?
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Limited courts, limited judges, availability of expert witnesses, all sorts of scheduling headaches and legal maneuvering to get the best shot at winning by each side. Also a rush to get the trial rolling could result in missing key information or evidence that could help or hinder either side’s case. And once the docket is set should a capital crime bump other less heinous crimes just to meet this arbitrary time restraint?
 
Larry Gude

Larry Gude

Strung Out
How about 'right to fair and speedy trial'

...for one?

As a new republican you were suppossed to say 'it takes so long because it takes awhile for a lawyer, getting paid tons of money, to get guilty people off the hook."

Civic duty? Try 'profiling'. I do not know of a white male, married with children, 30 plus years of age, Republican, pro death penalty that has gotten to perform their civic duty. Every one I know either never got sat or was excused (excluded) by defense when they did get a case.

I even had one guy ask me how to get tossed. He wanted to serve but could not afford to serve on a lengthy trial. I told him 'show up'. He got a case and made it as far as 'white, male, married, father of 5'...BZZZT. 'Thanks for playing but no thanks!'

I was a single dad last time my name came up and could not spare the time. I'd LOVE to get a case now.
 
Penn

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
A question I have is this:

They are reporting that this new juror has not been privy to any information about the trial, and has to be brought "up to speed" concerning the evidence that has been submitted in this case.

Just who brings the new juror up to speed?

Is it the Jury Foreman? Is it the judge?

Who ensures that all the evidence is presented to the new juror in the same manner as it was in the courtroom, with or without objections/overrulings, etc.?
 
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dems4me

Guest
Penn said:
A question I have is this:

They are reporting that this new juror has not been privy to any information about the trial, and has to be brought "up to speed" concerning the evidence that has been submitted in this case.

Just who brings the new juror up to speed?

Is it the Jury Foreman? Is it the judge?

Who ensures that all the evidence is presented to the new juror in the same manner as it was in the courtroom, with or without objections/overrulings, etc.?
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This one they just released IS the Jury Foreman :ohwell:
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
I'm one of the few who think that Scott Peterson didn't do it. I'm really interested in this purging of the jury members.
 
Penn

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Wow! I thought these proceedings were messed up before yesterday!

Well now, with what's gone on in the last 48 hours, things have really gone haywire in this trial.

They've had to bring an 2 new alternate jurors, select a new jury foreman, and then bring the new jurors "up to speed" on the case, in order to resume deliberation, and then try to reach a verdict.

So, this trial has been going on for some 5 & 1/2 months so far, makes you wonder about the mindset of those jurors who've been listening/considerating/deliberating this case all that time.

"When can I go home??
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Penn said:
Wow! I thought these proceedings were messed up before yesterday!

Well now, with what's gone on in the last 48 hours, things have really gone haywire in this trial.

They've had to bring an 2 new alternate jurors, select a new jury foreman, and then bring the new jurors "up to speed" on the case, in order to resume deliberation, and then try to reach a verdict.

So, this trial has been going on for some 5 & 1/2 months so far, makes you wonder about the mindset of those jurors who've been listening/considerating/deliberating this case all that time.

"When can I go home??
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As I understand it, they are only brought up to speed on the deliberations; the alternates had to sit through the trial just like the jurors that were selected. The alternates are there just for this purpose. The jury can go home when they bring in a verdict.
 
Penn

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
I was wondering about information on alternate jurors, so I did an internet search and found this:



http://158.59.15.115/arlington/jury.html

What are alternate jurors?

Sometimes, when the judge believes that a case is likely to last for more than a day or two, additional jurors will be chosen from those summoned for jury duty questioned, and challenged like other prospective jurors. The additional jurors are chosen to avoid having to retry the case should one or more jurors be excused from the jury during the trial for an emergency (such as illness), leaving too few jurors to decide the case. Throughout the trial, all jurors will sit together, paying careful attention to all the evidence. After closing argument, and before the jury retires to the jury room to decide the case, the judge will excuse from further jury duty enough jurors to reduce the number of jurors to the statutory number needed to decide the case.
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Interesting.
 
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