HVAC quote

[jasonandjen]

i got an hvac quote from a friend of mine i went to high school with. im 99% sure we're gonna use him, because i know he's a hard worker who is thorough, and his prices have always been more than fair. in leiu of getting a second and third quote, i might just run his pricing past you guys, and see what you thought.

goodman or trane 13 seer, either one $3500 installed
goodman or trane 15 seer, $4000

this will include the outside unit, inside unit, new lineset, any extra refrigerant to be run through the line, txv valve comes with the new unit, and some duct adapter kit to hook up to my 20 year old duct system.

basicly i wanted the most efficent unit i could get without going to a 2 speed compressor outside, or a variable speed air handler inside. both i feel are expensive to repair and unreliable to begin with. we have a 10 seer "high efficency" for 1992 unit now, and im leaning towards the 15 seer, as i believe the payback period would be about 5 years. ours is 2.5 tons with no heat pump now, and we're going with a 3 ton with heat pump. please let me know your opinions not only on our price quote, but the system as well. also leaning towards the trane 15 as i think the goodman was actually a 14.

 

[JOKER]

Sounds like a very good system and a very reasonable price.

 

[Crewdawg141]

Sounds like a very good system and a very reasonable price.

 

[desertrat]

i got an hvac quote from a friend of mine i went to high school with. im 99% sure we're gonna use him, because i know he's a hard worker who is thorough, and his prices have always been more than fair. in leiu of getting a second and third quote, i might just run his pricing past you guys, and see what you thought.

goodman or trane 13 seer, either one $3500 installed
goodman or trane 15 seer, $4000

this will include the outside unit, inside unit, new lineset, any extra refrigerant to be run through the line, txv valve comes with the new unit, and some duct adapter kit to hook up to my 20 year old duct system.

basicly i wanted the most efficent unit i could get without going to a 2 speed compressor outside, or a variable speed air handler inside. both i feel are expensive to repair and unreliable to begin with. we have a 10 seer "high efficency" for 1992 unit now, and im leaning towards the 15 seer, as i believe the payback period would be about 5 years. ours is 2.5 tons with no heat pump now, and we're going with a 3 ton with heat pump. please let me know your opinions not only on our price quote, but the system as well. also leaning towards the trane 15 as i think the goodman was actually a 14.

Better than the price I got a few years ago on a Trane 15 seer. Replaced a very old a/c with a 3 ton heat pump. Made a big difference in cooling bill and helped out with heating too.

Not sure if I have a 2 speed compressor, but I do have a variable speed blower.

 

[Gilligan]

I just selected a Carrier system with a 19 seer rating to go in the new house. I looked at the "payback" difference in operating costs compared to the 15 offered by another contractor and, although the 15 was cheaper, the 10-year life-cycle cost came out favoring the more efficient system.

The compressors (one 4-ton and one 3 1/2 ton) are 2-stage or 2-speed..something like that.

A 5-year payback sounds excellent...

 

[jasonandjen]

yea he usually takes very good care of me, ie when patching my old unit with freon when it leaked out, and cleaning my coils in the attic to gain efficency and not really charging anything for it. i figured it was a good price. usually a one man show is the best price in town. now i just gotta bite the bullet on the 4k, cause we're residing the house, adding foam, upgrading 4 windows, and putting a radiant heat barrier in the attic next month, so considering putting the hvac off till next spring or there will not be much home equity left for emergencies.

 

[jasonandjen]

I just selected a Carrier system with a 19 seer rating to go in the new house. I looked at the "payback" difference in operating costs compared to the 15 offered by another contractor and, although the 15 was cheaper, the 10-year life-cycle cost came out favoring the more efficient system.

The compressors (one 4-ton and one 3 1/2 ton) are 2-stage or 2-speed..something like that.

A 5-year payback sounds excellent...

the 5 year payback was an estimate for the 15 seer vs the 13 seer, but i didnt do any real math, just figured $100 per year. might have been optimistic. if it could last 20 years like my old one, i'll certainly get my money back, but i hear they dont quite make them like that anymore. the only con of the new compressors.

what do you guys think of the idea of going as efficent as i can go WITHOUT stepping up to variable speed air handler or 2 stage compressor. as i understand it, variable speed compressors are dc motor, run off an invertor, and is number one, less reliable, and number two, more expensive to repair when the time comes. i figure a reliable system will save me more money vs a super efficent one, figureing 15 seer bulletproof vs 19 seer with computer boards etc etc.

 

[czygvtwkr]

the 5 year payback was an estimate for the 15 seer vs the 13 seer, but i didnt do any real math, just figured $100 per year. might have been optimistic. if it could last 20 years like my old one, i'll certainly get my money back, but i hear they dont quite make them like that anymore. the only con of the new compressors.

what do you guys think of the idea of going as efficent as i can go WITHOUT stepping up to variable speed air handler or 2 stage compressor. as i understand it, variable speed compressors are dc motor, run off an invertor, and is number one, less reliable, and number two, more expensive to repair when the time comes. i figure a reliable system will save me more money vs a super efficent one, figureing 15 seer bulletproof vs 19 seer with computer boards etc etc.

The real difference is how big the coil is (inside and out), that's what gets you the efficiency.

An inverter turns DC into AC btw .

 

[struggler44]

i got an hvac quote from a friend of mine i went to high school with. im 99% sure we're gonna use him, because i know he's a hard worker who is thorough, and his prices have always been more than fair. in leiu of getting a second and third quote, i might just run his pricing past you guys, and see what you thought.

goodman or trane 13 seer, either one $3500 installed
goodman or trane 15 seer, $4000

this will include the outside unit, inside unit, new lineset, any extra refrigerant to be run through the line, txv valve comes with the new unit, and some duct adapter kit to hook up to my 20 year old duct system.

basicly i wanted the most efficent unit i could get without going to a 2 speed compressor outside, or a variable speed air handler inside. both i feel are expensive to repair and unreliable to begin with. we have a 10 seer "high efficency" for 1992 unit now, and im leaning towards the 15 seer, as i believe the payback period would be about 5 years. ours is 2.5 tons with no heat pump now, and we're going with a 3 ton with heat pump. please let me know your opinions not only on our price quote, but the system as well. also leaning towards the trane 15 as i think the goodman was actually a 14.

the 5 year payback was an estimate for the 15 seer vs the 13 seer, but i didnt do any real math, just figured $100 per year. might have been optimistic. if it could last 20 years like my old one, i'll certainly get my money back, but i hear they dont quite make them like that anymore. the only con of the new compressors.

what do you guys think of the idea of going as efficent as i can go WITHOUT stepping up to variable speed air handler or 2 stage compressor. as i understand it, variable speed compressors are dc motor, run off an invertor, and is number one, less reliable, and number two, more expensive to repair when the time comes. i figure a reliable system will save me more money vs a super efficent one, figureing 15 seer bulletproof vs 19 seer with computer boards etc etc.

It's been a few years since I've been with a Trane dealer but I believe in order to get 15 seer you will have a variable speed AHU in order to get that rating and I've never heard of a inverter on any HVAC equipment, you might want to double check on the systems before committing. The Tranes use to actually use 2 compressors in their 16seer on up, never heard of a variable speed compressor but then again, been away from them for a while.

 

[kom526]

Skip the Trane system, trust me. Go with Carrier instead.

 

[Gilligan]

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as i understand it, variable speed compressors are dc motor, run off an invertor, and is number one, less reliable, and number two, more expensive to repair when the time comes.

I didn't look in to the reliability of the variable-speed units but I know that is the direction many have or will take to achieve the very high efficiency numbers. We've been seeing variable-speed brushless DC compressors in the marine AC and refrigeration equipment for some years now...going on a decade. They are showing up in the refrigeration units used in the trucking industry now too.

That said, I decided not to go that way due more to the extra cost of gaining just another point or two. The Carrier units we are buying achieve 19 without variable speed drives.

 

[sunnyside22]

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i got an hvac quote from a friend of mine i went to high school with. im 99% sure we're gonna use him, because i know he's a hard worker who is thorough, and his prices have always been more than fair. in leiu of getting a second and third quote, i might just run his pricing past you guys, and see what you thought.

goodman or trane 13 seer, either one $3500 installed
goodman or trane 15 seer, $4000

this will include the outside unit, inside unit, new lineset, any extra refrigerant to be run through the line, txv valve comes with the new unit, and some duct adapter kit to hook up to my 20 year old duct system.

basicly i wanted the most efficent unit i could get without going to a 2 speed compressor outside, or a variable speed air handler inside. both i feel are expensive to repair and unreliable to begin with. we have a 10 seer "high efficency" for 1992 unit now, and im leaning towards the 15 seer, as i believe the payback period would be about 5 years. ours is 2.5 tons with no heat pump now, and we're going with a 3 ton with heat pump. please let me know your opinions not only on our price quote, but the system as well. also leaning towards the trane 15 as i think the goodman was actually a 14.