UrbanPancake said:
Our President has been wrong about the war in Iraq. It is never right to use pre-emptive military action against a nation without having all the facts, and manipulating the facts to fit your agenda. Because of this manipulation he has caused our military to become over extended. He has increased our chances of becoming less able to counter an attack if one was to show itself available. We are now occupying a country that has strong Anti-American beliefs. Our occupation of Iraq has encouraged more radical young Muslims to become extremists and terrorists. History has taught us that occupations fail. They fail because beliefs and values of the Occupying nation are forced on people with different cultural values, and beliefs. This occupation will go down in the books as a failure. The insurgents will continue to grow stronger with every passing week, month, and year that Americans continue to remain in Iraq. .
Our simply breathing causes radical Muslims to become extremists to become terrorists. It always has and it always will and if you disagree I will tell you to pull your head out of the sand. We have just sat back and taken it on the chin for way too long. I am refreshed we have stopped and started taking the fight to them. As far as your prediction that the occupation will fail, I will not give it credence because you are wrong on everything else you have ever said here. We are allowing the Iraqi’s to determine their own government and they are keeping their own culture, it is up to THEM if it works or fails not some skewed vision of history YOU have.
UrbanPancake said:
The President will continue to grow our deficit without presenting a plan to actually fix it. He will continue throwing money into the coffers of the military because the occupation of Iraq will continue to become a drain on our tax dollars. He will reform social security so new entrants to the social security system can invest their contributions into the stock market. I agree somewhat with this system, but Bush has presented no plan on how he will fund the benefits of the looming baby boomers, and the existing seniors who withdraw from SS. With his record tax cuts I can't see how he plans on improving the state of social security, and reforming it so new entrants can invest their contributions. Bush has created new government agencies, which further drains the tax base. Of course though Bush has a plan to cut the deficit in half while expanding the tax cuts. Bush hasn't vetoed any spending bills since he's been in office. It seems now that Republicans are the spenders, and the Liberals have become the financial conservatives. .
You are some kind of swami aren’t you? Given your brilliant insight you will have to excuse me if I do not ask you to predict my future. How do you know what plans he will put forth.
I would remind you that military spending 1. Keeps us the world leaders we are. 2. Trickles down to pay
hundreds of thousands of people. What better job program than one that provides a valuable service and provides jobs? How can you come here one day and kvelch about no decent paying jobs yet you belittle an industry and part of the government that provides the very freedom that has kept you from getting your teeth kicked out?
John Kerry said in the third debate he was not going to do anything to fix SS. At least my President recognizes there is a problem and will try to fix it. BTW his tax cuts were to individual income tax, not SS. SS has it’s own funding stream and is separate. I would try to explain micro economic principles to you but it would be a waste of my time because you would just sit there with your fingers in your ears going LALALALALALA.
UrbanPancake said:
Bush hasn't done much as far as Healthcare is concerned. Bush didn't block the vaccines that were coming from the UK. The British did. We should thank the British for finding the vaccines to be inadequate, not Bush. .
Bush did more in 4 than Clinton did in 8. Usually the country where something is manufactured holds regulation and oversight. I am sure we would have tested the vaccine before it made it into the arms of any Americans. The fact remains that the business environment here is not conducive to vaccine manufacture because of government regulation, price fixing and vulnerability to lawsuits in a sue happy nation. Tort reform would go a long way to help the Health care industry but you liberals cannot get your hands out of the Trial Lawyers Associations pockets long enough to act on it. If you liberals would give the man a chance without yipping at him like wild dogs he may surprise you.
UrbanPancake said:
Bush has went against his own policy about buying cheaper drugs in Canada, he wanted to buy flu vaccine from the Canadians, but for some reason buying American made drugs in Canada might be bad for Americans.
You do not see the difference between the government buying a lot of vaccine from a foreign manufacturer and your gray haired grandma scooting over the border and buying blood pressure medicine from a discount drug dealer in Ontario? If you cannot you have Terry McAuliffe disease and there is no Canadian drug for that.
It has been explained ad nausium to you that if Americans bought up all the drugs in Canada first the Canadians would slap a halt to it because the drug companies would stop discounting to them. In the end both the Canadians and Americans would end up screwed.
UrbanPancake said:
Bush claimed that Government Bureaucrats would have been in control of Kerry's health plan. He's wrong; Kerry's plan would have put instituted Blue Cross and Blue Shield, the same healthcare provider that the Federal Government enjoys
How long do you think Blue Cross and Blue shield would be a quality provider when it was swamped and not paid? BC/BS is a commercial insurance provider that does operate at a loss, which is exactly what would happen. The premium costs for all those people would be staggering AND paid for by the government at a fixed price negotiated down to the lowest point possible, and guess what, the government plan had deductibles and co-pays which get steep too.
UrbanPancake said:
Our President has supported the Family Healthcare Credit, which would pay for 90% of basic low-income persons. The problem with this policy is the fact that you have to pay for healthcare costs as an individual when you receive the bill, to receive the credit. How can a family of three who makes less than 20000 a year afford to pay for a large medical bill? Plus you have to deal with the bureaucracy of the IRS. This discourages low-income families from utilizing this credit.
First of all I cannot put into words the disgust I feel when you all of a sudden use the term “Our President” after your bullshiat daily attacks. “Pay 90% of basic low-income persons” wow sounds good to me, but wait I thought he was evil? I am sure if your side would actually work with him instead of attacking him you would be able to negotiate a way to make the plan work better. Your last statement about having to deal with the
hassle of the IRS to get a GREAT deal does not touch my heart. If a low income person is given an avenue to get help from the government but doesn’t want to deal with the “hassle” they can crawl in a hole and die then. I know it sounds harsh but hey.
UrbanPancake said:
Our President has buoyed support for Heath Savings Accounts. A Health Savings Account combines HIGH deductible health insurance with a tax-favored savings account. Once the deductible is met, the insurance starts paying. Money left in the savings account earns interest and is yours to keep. For singles you can contribute up to 2600 a year to the account. This means you pay for all of your healthcare expenses through this account, even your routine doctors visits. I don't understand how most American's can afford to stock away 2600 dollars away in an account such as this. This account benefits the rich and acts as a tax shelter for those that can afford it. It doesn't benefit the working person who has children to support. Our President made it illegal for Medicare to buy prescriptions in bulk, which would have provided our valued seniors with lower cost prescriptions. The fact is that only 19% of poor seniors actually use Bush's plan. .
First of all it is “up to” $2600 and you work hard and are disciplined and put away what you can. America was not built on the idea government provides for every iota of your existence. It does require some diligence, planning, and personal responsibility. Besides if they are using their own cash perhaps they would be a little more cautious before running to the Dr because of a common cold.