JoeRider
Federalist Live Forever
Yep, that is the case, gays can freely associate and can use the legal system just like everyone else, except they have more than equal protection because they are "gay".
If Gay Marriage is ok, why is polygamy a crime?
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Yep, that is the case, gays can freely associate and can use the legal system just like everyone else, except they have more than equal protection because they are "gay".
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I think free association and equal protection covers it.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I am TOTALLY opposed to affirmative action be it based on skin color or claimed sexual orientation.
Pushrod
Patriot
Then I think we have them pretty much boxed in here!
Where is owning your own home a right in the Constitution?
How about having children? Receiving medical attention? Being employed? Driving a vehicle?
Yet we do not insist that gays may not own a home, or receive medical attention, or hold jobs, or drive a vehicle. Some do try to say that they shouldn't be allowed to have children, which I don't agree with, either.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Then I think we have them pretty much boxed in here!
Here's the problem; in our ever more divisive nation, democracy still works the way it always did; persuasion over force. The moment force is used, democracy is gone and claims to the contrary are so much turd polishing and 1984-ism.
If bcp takes the position, as the state of Maryland does, that marriage is only between a man and a woman, the argument is academic. If marriage is the union of people, presumably unrelated adults, then it would seem like a good argument that they, any two, within the given parameters of age and relation, should enjoy the right of free association and equal protection.
bcp
In My Opinion
then I can marry anyone at any age or any species.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
bcp
In My Opinion
its not.
therefore, no rights are being denied.
bcp
In My Opinion
no, I would not be willing to redefine marriage by dropping the male/female and just leaving it as consenting adults.
foodcritic
New Member
Really? This case was about RACE. Leftists like to equate sexual deviance with race but this is a red herring argument. One in which many in this forum dabble...
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Toxick
Splat
You really do have a mental block with the whole "consenting adult" thing, don't you.
Either that or you're being intentionally dense, which I wouldn't have expected from you.
Do you honestly not see a difference between two 35 year old men wanting to marry each other as opposed to a 52 year old man and a 7 year old girl? Or a woman and her goat?
Seriously?
foodcritic
New Member
Do you really want to base the whole premise on "consenting"?
How about consenting to murder? Why not their both consenting what business is it to anyone else?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
OK, so, why do you keep asking for people to provide you with answers you will not accept?
As marriage, gay or otherwise, is not a constitutionally enumerated right and, like many other obvious rights, must be implied from an enumerated right or right(s) this all boils down to, constitutionally, whether or not people have the right of free association and equal protection.
Another question; if your congressman sponsored legislation declaring gay marriage a right in a bill that had the primary purpose to reaffirm the individual right to keep and bear arms, would you support or oppose them come election time?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
You can not consent to murder. By definition.Do you really want to base the whole premise on "consenting"?
How about consenting to murder? Why not their both consenting what business is it to anyone else?
If I give you full permission, consent, to kill me and it is documented, witnessed, etc, you will not be convicted of murder.
Toxick
Splat
Consenting adults..
In all seriousness, do you think that marriage and murder is a good comparison?How about consenting to murder? Why not their both consenting what business is it to anyone else?
Do you think there may be a teensy-tiny flaw in this comparison?
bcp
In My Opinion
I would oppose them.
DEEKAYPEE8569
Well-Known Member
I understood you the first time Vrai. Some folks; I'm not naming any names (BCP) are just thick.