What use of force doctrine am I obliged to follow? Not to mention that I now live in a castle doctrine state that includes my right to protect not only myself and others, but my property.So let me ask you a question. If you owned a business, and a mob was rioting and attempting to get inside, you have barricaded that business and someone was climbing over the barricade to get inside, would you wait until they got in to try and stop them or if you had the ability would you stop that threat before they got in?
Well, as to a grand jury, don't they only get what the prosecutor wants them to get? And the officer could still be fired, demoted, sued. It isn't only a criminal issue.And that decision, as previously stated is not up to you, but someone who is going to have ALL of the facts such as a prosecutor or grand jury. Good day.
True. All of those things could happen.Well, as to a grand jury, don't they only get what the prosecutor wants them to get? And the officer could still be fired, demoted, sued. It isn't only a criminal issue.
One of them would easily have grasped it by now.You are explaining your point just fine. The problem is that you're arguing with someone who is incapable or unwilling to acknowledge it.
And you have three kids, so I'd have thought you'd recognize this sort of thing by now.![]()
Last time.I understand what you are saying but here is where we disagree. I think a person can be beaten to death if they are hit once with an item and die as a result of being hit with that item. If I shoot someone, and they die two days later, they were shot to death. I don’t think the video we saw of the person being hit by the fire extinguisher is Sicknick. I know there are other stories of officers being beaten, but they aren’t caught on video. So just because we see a person being hit with a fire extinguisher, I don’t think we can automatically assign that to Officers Sicknick. So in my mind, the narrative is correct.
I understand what you are saying but I disagree. You seem to agree he was struck with a fire extinguisher. If that is the case, he only has to be struck one time to be beaten to death. You only have to be shot one time to be shot to death. You only have to be stabbed one time to be stabbed to death. It isn’t a difficult concept.Last time.
ONE cop died. You and I both agree the person we saw get hit probably was NOT Sicknick. If that is true the story is a lie because NO ONE ELSE died.
Also, since no one knows - the writer didn’t know either. So they made it up.
I already have liberal friends and family promulgating the story that some rioter stood over Sicknick and pounded him to death with an FE - sometimes mentioned as one of the large kind. Journalists shouldn’t get paid the big bucks to make chit up. This never happened.
Where are these "excuses" you speak of?There are an awful lot of excuses being made for someone killing a cop in a violent riot.
that’s both sad and hypocritical considering those making the excuses.
Where is the condemnation? For ****s sake, you are vilifying a cop who shot a person who was breaking and entering a secure area where congressmen where being sequestered from the violent mob.Where are these "excuses" you speak of?
Vilify? Where is that happening? And again, where are the excuses you spoke of?Where is the condemnation? For ****s sake, you are vilifying a cop who shot a person who was breaking and entering a secure area where congressmen where being sequestered from the violent mob.
you guys really are hypocrites.
Your denial is almost as sad as the Justifications you make about how a cop wasn’t beaten to death.Vilify? Where is that happening? And again, where are the excuses you spoke of?
Are you stoned or just stupid? I do not recall talking about the dead cop at all, show me where I justified it. And where are those excuses?Your denial is almost as sad as the Justifications you make about how a cop wasn’t beaten to death.
Like I said, you denial is noted. the thread is full of you making excuses and justifications about that cops’ murder.Are you stoned or just stupid? I do not recall talking about the dead cop at all, show me where I justified it. And where are those excuses?
And you truly are stupid and a liar as I have done no such thing. And once more, where are these excuses you say are being made. Put up or shut up!Like I said, you denial is noted. the thread is full of you making excuses and justifications about that cops’ murder.
And you truly are stupid and a liar as I have done no such thing. And once more, where are these excuses you say are being made. Put up or shut up!
And it was just a couple weeks ago that you tards were screaming "ACAB" and defunding the police in violent ransacked cities.It used to be that the self proclaimed conservatives were actually in favor of law and order,
Pointing out that the "Use of Force" doctrine seems to have not been followed by the officer that shot and killed Babbitt and identifying you as a stupid liar.
What do you call what you have been doing?
It used to be that the self proclaimed conservatives were actually in favor of law and order, now you guys think it’s just fine for people to attack the congress, injure and kill police, and break and enter secure facilities where our elected officials are being safeguarded.
sad
No, you are minimizing the threat that officer faced ad vilifying him as a murderer to suit your agenda.Pointing out that the "Use of Force" doctrine seems to have not been followed by the officer that shot and killed Babbitt and identifying you as a stupid liar.