BOP
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It was kind of entertaining to watch the progs in the aftermath going "whatdaya mean he's still President!? He was impeached, gawddamit!"
Impeach Part 2
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Remember that old "How did Reagan win?? I don't know anyone who voted for him!" thing?
It's that. They live in a hivemind and literally don't know anyone who voted for Trump.
I agree. This is not really in the spirit of bringing the country together. The guy has seven days left, let him go and move on. The democrats have been talking about impeachment from before he was sworn in. Impeachment of any president should be the very last resort. I think President Trump should have conceded this election after losing multiple legal battles, but his speech last week does not rise to the level of sedition or any sort of incitement to violence.
Hijinx
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Well, that’s because he did lose.
PJay
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Did not.
Okay. We’ll have to agree to disagree. The numerous lawsuits and other Republican governors and secretary of states are all conspiring against him. That’s what it must be.
PJay
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yep
SamSpade
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The drive to punish him and his followers continues - which is unsurprising.
What bewilders me utterly is, THIS is what I keep seeing online --
Republicans threaten violence if Trump faces repercussions — but it was impunity that moved his mob
Trump and his mob believe they'll never pay the piper
That - "there's no UNITY without accountability" and
"He openly colluded with Russia to cheat in the election and got away with lying about it. " and
"He was impeached for the Ukrainian extortion scheme " (funny, the one person who CLEARLY extorted Ukraine is BIden - and he bragged about it) and
my favorite -
"The only way to stop the violence is to strip Trump and his followers of their sense of impunity. The only way that happens is with, heaven forbid, actual sanctions for their actions. "
Let this SINK INTO YOUR EARS -
To these people, unity happens when they shut you the hell up and make sure you're under their boot.
I've said this on here countless times - to these guys "bipartisan" means the Dems have enough votes to run over you, and unity means we have all the cards and you shut up and color.
EDITED TO ADD:
There were spots in the article - besides the bullshit Russian collusion thing - that made me want to close the page - the best one being that a cop was "beaten to death with a fire extinguisher". He was HIT with a fire extinguisher - it's on video - it was outside, the fire extinguisher was one of those small ones about the size of a 2 liter bottle of Coke and it was tossed at an unknown cop who was wearing a helmet - it bounces off - and by all appearances he seemed largely unfazed. Check out the video yourself -
Capitol rioter hits officer with fire extinguisher: video (nypost.com)
Kind of a far cry from being "beaten to death" - which throws great doubt on everything else said, doesn't it? The writer could NOT have seen it - being like a lot of lefties, just repeating what they've heard. Have to admit, when I looked it up myself it was anti-climactic.
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Kinnakeet
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a third of the Republicans to vote for it, and that won't happen. WE HOPE as the repubs seem to have turned against him atleast the ones that should never ever be in office again
I'm just thankful more people are finally recognizing the left for what they are.
SamSpade
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Nowadays, most elections turn on a small portion of the electorate changing its mind - kind of a consequence when there's really just two parties and votes are kind of a zero sum game. You lose two points from your total, the other guy gets two - you're down four. (I realize it doesn't always work that way - you can vote for another candidate or choose not to vote - but it general, yeah, it does)
Hence politicians know - they can't afford to have 5% of their constituents vote the other way (unless they're in districts like Steny's where he could lose 10% and it would make no difference).
Yeah, what these guys fear is - losing their jobs.
Hijinx
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The drive to punish him and his followers continues - which is unsurprising.
What bewilders me utterly is, THIS is what I keep seeing online --
Republicans threaten violence if Trump faces repercussions — but it was impunity that moved his mob
Trump and his mob believe they'll never pay the piperwww.salon.com
That - "there's no UNITY without accountability" and
"He openly colluded with Russia to cheat in the election and got away with lying about it. " and
"He was impeached for the Ukrainian extortion scheme " (funny, the one person who CLEARLY extorted Ukraine is BIden - and he bragged about it) and
my favorite -
"The only way to stop the violence is to strip Trump and his followers of their sense of impunity. The only way that happens is with, heaven forbid, actual sanctions for their actions. "
Let this SINK INTO YOUR EARS -
To these people, unity happens when they shut you the hell up and make sure you're under their boot.
I've said this on here countless times - to these guys "bipartisan" means the Dems have enough votes to run over you, and unity means we have all the cards and you shut up and color.
EDITED TO ADD:
There were spots in the article - besides the bullshit Russian collusion thing - that made me want to close the page - the best one being that a cop was "beaten to death with a fire extinguisher". He was HIT with a fire extinguisher - it's on video - it was outside, the fire extinguisher was one of those small ones about the size of a 2 liter bottle of Coke and it was tossed at an unknown cop who was wearing a helmet - it bounces off - and by all appearances he seemed largely unfazed. Check out the video yourself -
Capitol rioter hits officer with fire extinguisher: video (nypost.com)
Kind of a far cry from being "beaten to death" - which throws great doubt on everything else said, doesn't it? The writer could NOT have seen it - being like a lot of lefties, just repeating what they've heard. Have to admit, when I looked it up myself it was anti-climactic.
Well you got farther than I did . This is the fake news that Trump has been speaking of all along.
This is the garbage news being fed to the Trump haters every day. And they eat it up like it was candy.
SamSpade
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And if AOC has her way - this is the ONLY news you'll get.
I can't believe this truth commission thing is originating with her - the woman who famously cried in a photo in front of a fence -
Which overlooked an empty parking lot. Yep. COMPLETELY MADE UP NEWS.
This is the person who wants to ensure you only get the "truth".
This was brought up on The Five and posed to Juan WIlliams - how would he feel about such a commission if Republicans were in charge of it?
Well it is Salon.
Hijinx
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Juan Williams is a waste of good oxygen.
And yet you've read Nineteen Eighty-Four.....
I believe fully that a "truth commission" would originate with a Leftist authoritarian. Who else would come up with this crap?
SamSpade
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I keep trying to play devil's advocate with that answer - insofar as asking "what would a hard right leaning society do, if they ruled the airwaves, TV, movies, cable networks and social media - and I keep coming up with the same answer - no, the right still wouldn't do it, but not because they so very much respect freedom of expression.
It has a lot more to do with the kind of person who leans conservative than anything else. Your average conservative from my perspective really just wants to be left alone to do their own thing - raise their own kids, teach their children, be with their friends, live their own life and help those who enter the sphere of their lives.
It's just not in their nature to get all up in someone else's chit.
These lunatics at the Capitol? We've never seen this before. But if you think Trump created that anger, you're wrong. The Left created that anger - it's been seething for years, long before Trump. The left has been ridiculing and marginalizing the right for decades. Blaming TRUMP is like when we get anger overseas from angry mobs and stupidly place the blame on the current adminstration, whomever is in. And I want to think "IDIOTS. Do you think people hate Americans, because a Republican is President? Or because of a Republican policy - and will LOVE us, when that changes? They have hated Americans for decades - who's in the White House or who holds Congress makes not a whit of difference".
The only culpability I can see for Trump is - he hit back. He didn't roll over and cave in like Republicans have been doing for years.