Impeachment Witness Professor Jonathan Turley: Congress Committing High Crime And Misdemeanor In Impeachment Without Going To Courts

GURPS

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“If this Committee elects to seek impeachment on the failure to yield to congressional demands in an oversight or impeachment investigation, it will have to distinguish a long line of cases where prior presidents sought the very same review while withholding witnesses and documents,” Turley said, according to his prepared remarks. “Basing impeachment on this obstruction theory would itself be an abuse of power . . . by Congress. It would be an extremely dangerous precedent to set for future presidents and Congresses in making an appeal to the Judiciary into “high crime and misdemeanor.”

“In the current case, the record is facially insufficient. The problem is not simply that the record does not contain direct evidence of the President stating a quid pro quo, as Chairman Schiff has suggested,” Turley continued. “The problem is that the House has not bothered to subpoena the key witnesses who would have such direct knowledge. This alone sets a dangerous precedent. A House in the future could avoid countervailing evidence by simply relying on tailored records with testimony from people who offer damning presumptions or speculation.”

“It is not enough to simply shrug and say this is ‘close enough for jazz’ in an impeachment,” Turley added. “The expectation, as shown by dozens of failed English impeachments, was that the lower house must offer a complete and compelling record. That is not to say that the final record must have a confession or incriminating statement from the accused. Rather, it was meant to be a complete record of the key witnesses that establishes the full range of material evidence. Only then could the body reach a conclusion on the true weight of the evidence—a conclusion that carries sufficient legitimacy with the public to justify the remedy of removal.”

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littlelady

God bless the USA
The other side had a Haavad and a Stanford professor. So they win !

The whole thing is a freaking joke. And, the joke is on Americans. Congress hasn’t done their freaking job since Trump was elected. God bless the USA. All I see is this... :jameo: All because Hillary wasn’t elected to keep the Deep State going. Thank God. We should count our blessings, for now. But, what I have.read, lately, about this crap is very scary. Were WE not paying attention?
 
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Hijinx

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The opinions of left wing liberal socialist globalist law professors are just that---opinions.
They are not evidence of wrongdoing.
The Democrats have so far not shown any evidence of wrongdoing.
 

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
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GregV814

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well, this debacle has hit the high mark of my favorite Woody Allen movie "Bananas"....this is how he satirically portrayed what we now have become in this IMPEACHMENT conclusion:

 
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officeguy

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And while we are posting memes, the quote from 'Cousin Vinnie' comes to mind:





Iow it doesn't matter what Turley said or whether his legal arguments were better than those of the angry witch.
 

The Boss

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The opinions of left wing liberal socialist globalist law professors are just that---opinions.
They are not evidence of wrongdoing.
The Democrats have so far not shown any evidence of wrongdoing.
Not surprising but you'r wrong.....................


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/fox-news-andrew-napolitano-trump-impeachment-073823258.html

Fox News Legal Analyst: I 'Certainly Would' Vote To Impeach Donald Trump


Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday said if he were in Congress, he would “certainly” vote to impeach President Donald Trump.
Appearing on “America’s Newsroom,” Napolitano said he believed “the Democrats have credibly argued that [Trump] committed impeachable offenses” in the Ukraine scandal.
“The easiest one, because this existed in Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, is obstruction of Congress,” he explained. “So, by directing his subordinates to refuse to comply with lawfully issued subpoenas, whether it’s for testimony or for documents, that’s an impeachable offense.”
“We know that from history, every time the House of Representatives has looked at that with respect to a president, they found it to be impeachable,” Napolitano added. “On that, reasonable minds cannot disagree without rejecting history and without rejecting constitutional norms.”
 

Gilligan

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PREMO Member
Not surprising but you'r wrong.....................


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/fox-news-andrew-napolitano-trump-impeachment-073823258.html

Fox News Legal Analyst: I 'Certainly Would' Vote To Impeach Donald Trump


Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday said if he were in Congress, he would “certainly” vote to impeach President Donald Trump.
Appearing on “America’s Newsroom,” Napolitano said he believed “the Democrats have credibly argued that [Trump] committed impeachable offenses” in the Ukraine scandal.
“The easiest one, because this existed in Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, is obstruction of Congress,” he explained. “So, by directing his subordinates to refuse to comply with lawfully issued subpoenas, whether it’s for testimony or for documents, that’s an impeachable offense.”
“We know that from history, every time the House of Representatives has looked at that with respect to a president, they found it to be impeachable,” Napolitano added. “On that, reasonable minds cannot disagree without rejecting history and without rejecting constitutional norms.”

That's his opinion. No more..no less.
 

This_person

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So none of what they said is true,..................none of it?
I'm sure their names and professional histories were true. I believe some of the history they gave are based upon facts. I'm pretty sure everything I heard them say about Trump was opinion st best and counter to the facts at worst.
 

The Boss

Active Member
Nothing but their opinions. Simple concept, really.,
No, again surprisingly you're wrong they were stating fact ,the attempted act is the impeachable offense doesn't matter if it happen or not, telling witnesses not to testify is "obstruction" fact not opinion.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
No, again surprisingly you're wrong they were stating fact ,the attempted act is the impeachable offense doesn't matter if it happen or not, telling witnesses not to testify is "obstruction" fact not opinion.
Nope..that too is simply some folks opinion. Other legal experts and scholars disagree. See how opinion works? : patonhead:
 
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