Indiana Bill would limit Assisted Reproduction, IVF, etc.

[sleuth]

They dropped the bill because of "complexities", but the latest word is that Patricia Miller is consulting with constitutional scholars to reword it and make it easier to pass.

The bill is supposedly aimed at gays, lesbians, and single mothers, but would also make it more difficult for couples who need assistance in artificial means of having a baby. Apparently, it would make them go through an "adoption-like" process.

Anyway, here's the news item about the bill that was dropped. It's from October. But as I said, it's in the works of being reintroduced.

Thought it would make a good topic for today's debate.

Miller had planned to ask the committee to vote at that meeting on whether to recommend the proposed bill to the full legislature when it meets in January.
Under her proposal, couples who needed assistance to become pregnant -- such as through intrauterine insemination; the use of donor eggs, embryos and sperm; in vitro fertilization and embryo transfer; or other medical means -- would have had to be married to each other.
In addition, married couples who needed donor sperm and eggs to become pregnant would have been required to go through the same rigorous assessment of their fitness to be parents as do people who adopt a child.

link: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051006/NEWS02/510060442&SearchID=73222550280102

 

[rack'm]

Shoot'n blanks huh?

 

[bcp]

I dont see anything wrong with insisting that people are married to go through this.

I do see a problem with a gay male couple though, how long will it be before they are crying that they dont have the same rights because neither one of them can get pregnant?

 

[rack'm]

I dont see anything wrong with insisting that people are married to go through this.

I do see a problem with a gay male couple though, how long will it be before they are crying that they dont have the same rights because neither one of them can get pregnant?

:shrug: Where do you think asshole babies come from??

 

[Dutch6]

:shrug: Where do you think asshole babies come from??

 

[sleuth]

:shrug: Where do you think asshole babies come from??

 

[sleuth]

I dont see anything wrong with insisting that people are married to go through this.

What are your reasons for this?

Should a 40-year old woman with the financial means and the desire to have a baby be prevented from doing so, just because she never found a man?

Secondly, why is ok to put infertile couples through these procedures when there are a hundred times more dumbazzes who reproduce normally but shouldn't?

 

[vraiblonde]

Secondly, why is ok to put infertile couples through these procedures when there are a hundred times more dumbazzes who reproduce normally but shouldn't?

That's exactly the question I was going to ask.

 

[FromTexas]

What are your reasons for this?

Should a 40-year old woman with the financial means and the desire to have a baby be prevented from doing so, just because she never found a man?

Yes, because in all likelyhood she will have a boy. Could you imagine the lifelong psychological trauma a 40 year old, love starved, lonely woman could inflict on a boy? Did you see boy/girl on American Idol?

 

[rack'm]

When there are a hundred times more dumbazzes who reproduce normally but shouldn't?

If we could only fix this problem, so many other problems would never see the light of day.

 

[sleuth]

Yes, because in all likelyhood she will have a boy. Could you imagine the lifelong psychological trauma a 40 year old, love starved, lonely woman could inflict on a boy? Did you see boy/girl on American Idol?

I see your point.

But let's say she had a brother who would sign on as another legal guardian?
I don't know. I certainly believe that all children should have a permanent, positive male influence in their lives, and a child born to a single mother, no matter how great she may be, may or may not ever get that.

But I'm still a little bit leery of telling a woman who otherwise would be a great mother that she can't adopt or have a child by artificial means just because there's no man around.

Tough call.