DEEKAYPEE8569
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Not a drastic increase in performance, but noticeable.
Application: 2016 Mazda6 2.5L 6 Spd Man.
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Not a drastic increase in performance, but noticeable.
Application: 2016 Mazda6 2.5L 6 Spd Man.
now you need a CAT Back system to go with it
.... the a Cam Upgrade
.... then a Port and Polish on the head
.... then a
So, GURPS, you are saying that is doesn't matter if you can suck a bit better if you don't also squish, bang, and blow better?
you are trolling me ....
not at all, DK pointed out he could feel a little more go
but in combination, with an exhaust system it breathes better .....
then a cam with more rise and duration you get more fuel / air in the motor
as you know an engine is a big air pump
glhs837
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you are trolling me ....
not at all, DK pointed out he could feel a little more go
but in combination, with an exhaust system it breathes better .....
then a cam with more rise and duration you get more fuel / air in the motor
as you know an engine is a big air pump
Not at all. Four cycle engine, indeed an air pump. He can suck in more air with his intake. You need better cams to squeeze the intake charge, which (you missed more fuel) leads to a larger bang, and then your exhaust mods, you can blow more gasses out the back, making room for that intake to suck in more air and start it all over again
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Make sure you routinely clean that filter and keep it well oiled; they sell the kits with cleaner and oil for that. Those K&N and clones "cold air" setups do not filter anywhere near as well as the factory setup and elements do.
Chris0nllyn
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I actually took mine off.
Besides what Gilligan mentioned (regarding oiling), K&N filters routinely don't compare to OEM filters in efficiency (overall ability to capture dirt), dirt capacity, accumulative gain (dirt passing through the filter), etc.
Besides that, the open filter design tends to suck hot air from the engine bay. I felt that difference when it was heat soaked and chose the OEM filter instead.
Besides what Gilligan mentioned (regarding oiling), K&N filters routinely don't compare to OEM filters in efficiency (overall ability to capture dirt), dirt capacity, accumulative gain (dirt passing through the filter), etc.
Besides that, the open filter design tends to suck hot air from the engine bay. I felt that difference when it was heat soaked and chose the OEM filter instead.
glhs837
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Generally they are not going to bust your chops over an intake. Because by the time it actually causes any damage due to what it is, you are far outside warranty. So your engine croaks at 160K instead of 240K, they care not.
DEEKAYPEE8569
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I looked underneath, at the stock plumbing; a 4-1-2 setup; 4 hedder pipes from engine into a single pipe through a cat to two outlets; all tucked neatly in the undercarriage; like that part of the car was built around the exhaust system.
The effects of reduced filtration..sure...that takes time. But I've seen dealers get sticky over that kind of mod when a vehicle shows up for "other" issues under the hood. I know that in the case of late-model diesel trucks, it is (or can be) an issue.
Chris0nllyn
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Not to mention that most intake systems are CARB compliant and don't generally cause warranty issues.
I had warranty work done on past vehicle that I lowered (suspension work), intake, ported throttle body, took apart the gauge cluster and swapped the LEDs, etc. They didn't have an issue with it.
glhs837
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Well if its the SRT motor, it was designed to support close to 400 hp, since the Mopar Stage 3 kit on racegas was good for around 360. the SRT-4 guys have been putting down 500ish for almost eight years now. Usually with silly peaky curves that make most of it useless unless you are on slicks.
glhs837
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Yeah, no normal Neon gonna support that, the SRT motor got lots of goodies beyond just the snail bolted onto the back. Oil squirters to cool the pistons, beefier crank, cracked crank caps, Iconel valves, stronger block. The block was already beefed to support a Mexico only version of the 2.4 used in Stratus taxicabs. Needed the turbo motor to deal with trying to lug four tourists and luggage in Mexico Citys mile high smoggy air. the aforementioned Stage 3 Mopar upgrade turbo was fairly trick, used a titanium/aluminide (TiAl) turbine section that allowed for fast spool.
They shouldn't. I replaced my air filter with a K&N (which is what the OP looks like) for my new F-150 in 2010, with about a 1.5 mpg increase in fuel efficiency. That's about an 8% increase. During normal servicing at the Ford garages, they told me no effect on any kind on the engine warranty. Pretty silly to penalize something that actually makes the vehicle a bit better than factory air filters.
Experiences vary. It's been well proven that "most" so-called "cold air" intake setups have little if any effect on performance. Most do not filter particulate as efficiently as the factory elements and setups..proven by some extensive comparison testing. That's the funny part..performance increases that are notieceable are mostly due simply to the less restrictive filter...which is less restrictively because it is not as efficient as a filter.
But to each their own. I've grabbed a bunch of late-model factory diesel intake filter setups for free from a buddy that owns an upgrade shop and has installed plenty of the aftermarket setups. I use those on my offroad vehicle projects.
glhs837
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Yep, and when I installed my Stage 3 turbo, it sounded awesome, like a jet. Found out I had misaligned the output coupler. Adjusted that, lost that cool sound but went faster