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limblips

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I haven't verified the numbers but this is still interesting.

 

Gilligan

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I haven't verified the numbers but this is still interesting.

Looked to be quite accurate to me. I reposted this over in another thread on the subject...hope you don't mind.
 

phreddyp

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The bottom line is even if the numbers are off by half it's still ridiculous to think that wind and solar will be anything more than a supplemental source of energy. Continuous sources of power will still be needed.
 

limblips

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I wonder since they are so in to renewables why do they embrace EVs? The rare earth materials needed to make the batteries have a finite quantity. At some point we will have used it all. I am all about hydrogen but there seems to be opposition to it but I don't understand why.
 

black dog

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That horrible Walmart Gas City Distribution Center rolling stock fork pallet and fork trucks all use hydrogen. Maybe they know something?
 

SamSpade

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I wonder since they are so in to renewables why do they embrace EVs? The rare earth materials needed to make the batteries have a finite quantity. At some point we will have used it all. I am all about hydrogen but there seems to be opposition to it but I don't understand why.
Re: Rare Earths - worse, China has almost all of it, in their ground. Second - they KNOW this and are looking for more in the one place in the solar system anyone is likely to find more - on the Moon.

Re: Hydrogen. You can't mine hydrogen - you have to make it with other means - so unlike renewables like wind and solar - which arrive more or less "free" at least in terms of capture - hydrogen you have to MAKE. Which consumes energy.

There IS at least one way of getting hydrogen that I do think will work - and that is as a consequence of load balancing on nuclear reactors. When you create power, you have to adjust for demand - but if you use all of the excess power to create hydrogen, you don't need to balance at all. You can run the reactor at full blast and divert all extra power to creating and storing hydrogen. Making nukes MORE efficient.
 

Bonehead

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Nukes always run at 100% capacity unless maintenance requires a lower power level. Most designs are less stable at lower power levels.
 

vraiblonde

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I think at some point technology will develop so that wind and solar are solid reliable primary energy sources, but that point is not now and it's annoying that the cultbots insist it is.
 

limblips

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I think at some point technology will develop so that wind and solar are solid reliable primary energy sources, but that point is not now and it's annoying that the cultbots insist it is.
I am especially fond of their refusal to acknowledge the fossil fuel tail that is attached to their green energy programs and the environmental disaster that disposal of them will bring on.
 

vraiblonde

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I am especially fond of their refusal to acknowledge the fossil fuel tail that is attached to their green energy programs and the environmental disaster that disposal of them will bring on.
Have you ever tried to explain that to a dedicated greenie cultist? Their ignorance and level of brainwashing is crazy. They think this stuff just magically appears.
 
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