interesting concept to confront the establishment

[2ndAmendment]

Another interesting concept to confront the establishment from today's Federalist Brief.

"There is nothing indispensable about a state role in education. Parents don't expect the government to provide their children's food or clothing or medical care; there is no reason why it must provide their schooling. An educated citizenry is a vital public good, of course. But like most such goods, a competitive and responsive private sector could do a much better job of supplying it than the public sector can. Imagine how diverse and vital American education could be if it were liberated from government control. There would be schools of every description -- just as there are restaurants, websites, and clothing styles of every description. ... With separation of school and state, the roiling education battles would come to a peaceful end. Robust competition and innovation would dramatically lower costs. Teachers, released from their one-size-fits-all straitjacket, would be happier in their chosen profession. Children would be happier, too -- and, perhaps best of all, better-educated to boot." --Jeff Jacoby

 

[sleuth]

Another interesting concept to confront the establishment from today's Federalist Brief.

Would be interesting.

But I fear the day when send our kids to the Physics school, which totally ignores history or language.

Can you still have educational standards that they have to meet?

 

[newtosomd]

Another interesting concept to confront the establishment from today's Federalist Brief.

I've wondered about this for sometime. When was public(gov't funded education for k-12) started? In the beginning, I don't think our government was established to educate its citizens?

 

[ylexot]

Can you still have educational standards that they have to meet?

That was the idea I had. The gov't sets minimum educational standards and pays X amount per student. The problem I see is that you will have some schools that do the minimum, but deal more in volume (fast food education) and then you'd have other schools that are more desireable and cost more. That means that the rich will be able to afford the better education. Of course, what we have now is pretty severely divided between public and private. Under this system, you would have greater variety in quality of education. There would be more middle ground.

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

I've wondered about this for sometime. When was public(gov't funded education for k-12) started? In the beginning, I don't think our government was established to educate its citizens?

When founded, our government also didn't have have programs such as child support, welfare and social security.

A public source of education is essential if the country as a whole is going to be productive in a global market. IMO, children graduating public ducation are not as smart as they were thirty-forty years ago.

 

[2ndAmendment]

When founded, our government also didn't have have programs such as child support, welfare and social security.

Of course those things are un-Constitutional as well.

A public source of education is essential if the country as a whole is going to be productive in a global market. IMO, children graduating public ducation are not as smart as they were thirty-forty years ago.

The point of the quote is why should education be publicly funded or directed. The private sector does almost everything better than government does it. Education used to be up to each individual or the community. Might it not still be best that way?

 

[Midnightrider]

Of course those things are un-Constitutional as well.
The point of the quote is why should education be publicly funded or directed. The private sector does almost everything better than government does it. Education used to be up to each individual or the community. Might it not still be best that way?

the reason the our governemnt must furnish education to its citizens is because the governemnt forces ALL children that are able to go to school. It would be wrong of the federal governemnt to say "ALL children MUST attend school between the ages of __ to ___" and not provide a means.

if all schools were private the FEDs would be forcing us to buy a product from a private company- thats a little fishey

 

[vraiblonde]

Education used to be up to each individual or the community. Might it not still be best that way?

If people weren't such morons laying around on their butts watching the newest reality TV show and thinking about who they'd like to have sex with, I'd say yes. As it stands, I'm almost for the government taking children away from their parents at birth.

Anyway, public schools fall under the state, so they're not unconstitutional. Child support and welfare come from the state as well, therefore not unconstitutional.

Social Security is decidedly unconstitutional. Someone should sue the government for unlawful seizure so it goes before the Supremes.

 

[2ndAmendment]

the reason the our governemnt must furnish education to its citizens is because the governemnt forces ALL children that are able to go to school. It would be wrong of the federal governemnt to say "ALL children MUST attend school between the ages of __ to ___" and not provide a means.

if all schools were private the FEDs would be forcing us to buy a product from a private company- thats a little fishey

The forcing of anyone to go to school also has no Constitutional authority.

 

[2ndAmendment]

If people weren't such morons laying around on their butts watching the newest reality TV show and thinking about who they'd like to have sex with, I'd say yes. As it stands, I'm almost for the government taking children away from their parents at birth.

Anyway, public schools fall under the state, so they're not unconstitutional. Child support and welfare come from the state as well, therefore not unconstitutional.

Social Security is decidedly unconstitutional. Someone should sue the government for unlawful seizure so it goes before the Supremes.

Child support is federally enforced, but it is a state issue. Welfare on the other hand has its root firmly in the feds. It is administered by the states but is largely federally funded. You take the bucks; you have to comply with their regs.

 

[donbarzini]

Parents don't expect the government to provide their children's food or clothing or medical care; .....


Really, Mr Jacoby? Come to SE in DC and ask around. The federal gov't owes every one every thing.