Is there a gun range around here?

[pcjohnnyb]

Then why in the hell did the St. Mary's Sherriff's Dept. go with all rifles...??
and got rid of the shotguns.........

Think about it, active school shooting. ( god forbid ) deputies get called to the school. You are the first to arrive. You reach in your trunk and pull out a shotgun. The attacker is still moving through the hallways, he has an AK or an AR. Max EFFECTIVE range on that shotgun is going to be maybe 100 yards. Then you can't call the pattern of the pellets. BUT YOUR A$$ as a Sheriff's Deputy is directly responsible for each one!
Now switch to a rifle. ( I don't care which one, pick one ) Now you can meet the attacker FORCE ON FORCE, and hit him, hopefully, from range, before he can hurt anymore people.

That may be the reason, and if that isn't, I can think of plenty more.

Thanks. I appreciate it. If he read the prior posts, he would pick up that " I NEVER SAID ANYONE SWITCHED OUT". I was merely stating that IF some departments have/had, I could understand why. Liability issues....

Anywho....

No...you didn't directly say it. thats what REALLY led me to believe you were full of

instead of discounting toppick's statement that the sheriff department SWITCHED from shotguns to rifles, you instead stated the reasons why this move made sense. so no, you didn't directly state it, but you went along with the idea

 

[Tomahawk202]

No...you didn't directly say it. thats what REALLY led me to believe you were full of

instead of discounting toppick's statement that the sheriff department SWITCHED from shotguns to rifles, you instead stated the reasons why this move made sense. so no, you didn't directly state it, but you went along with the idea

Ok, so what?

Look, this is an area where my opinion was backed up by the memo by Lodge #15, not to mention 15 years as a LEO, 6 years on a tactical team, and 12 years in the Army, with 3 combat tours. You should get in the practice of researching, backing up or educating yourself on such topics, BEFORE you put yourself out there.

I know what I am talking about.

Hey Toppick,
If you want to keep a AT-4 in your bedroom for home defense, what the hell do I care?
Sincerely,
Mr. LE Occiffer

 

[toppick08]

Ok, so what?

Look, this is an area where my opinion was backed up by the memo by Lodge #15, not to mention 15 years as a LEO, 6 years on a tactical team, and 12 years in the Army, with 3 combat tours. You should get in the practice of researching, backing up or educating yourself on such topics, BEFORE you put yourself out there.

I know what I am talking about.

Hey Toppick,
If you want to keep a AT-4 in your bedroom for home defense, what the hell do I care?
Sincerely,
Mr. LE Occiffer

....I was just axin', if it was (legal).......rolleyes.

 

[pcjohnnyb]

Ok, so what?

Look, this is an area where my opinion was backed up by the memo by Lodge #15, not to mention 15 years as a LEO, 6 years on a tactical team, and 12 years in the Army, with 3 combat tours. You should get in the practice of researching, backing up or educating yourself on such topics, BEFORE you put yourself out there.

I know what I am talking about.

Hey Toppick,
If you want to keep a AT-4 in your bedroom for home defense, what the hell do I care?
Sincerely,
Mr. LE Occiffer

unfortunately, you've said too many questionable things for me to believe this. I had initially given you the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately you've lost that :shrug:

 

[Tomahawk202]

unfortunately, you've said too many questionable things for me to believe this. I had initially given you the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately you've lost that :shrug:

Your respect, opinion and gratitude and a quarter couldn't buy me a cup of coffee. read: I don't care.

 

[toppick08]

Ok, so what?

Look, this is an area where my opinion was backed up by the memo by Lodge #15, not to mention 15 years as a LEO, 6 years on a tactical team, and 12 years in the Army, with 3 combat tours. You should get in the practice of researching, backing up or educating yourself on such topics, BEFORE you put yourself out there.

I know what I am talking about.

Hey Toppick,
If you want to keep a AT-4 in your bedroom for home defense, what the hell do I care?
Sincerely,
Mr. LE Occiffer

Hey, Tomahawk....If an officer of the the law steps on my private property, without a cause, can I defend my property with a .300 Win. pointed at his face.?......because he also carries a gun...I might feel threatened...??

 

[pcjohnnyb]

Hey, Tomahawk....If an officer of the the law steps on my private property, without a cause, can I defend my property with a .300 Win. pointed at his face.?......because he also carries a gun...I might feel threatened...??

if he shows you no badge and doesn't declare who he is, go for it...he is a civilian/criminal as far as you know



not advocating violence on cops...its a joke lol. but if you have reason to believe he is going to hurt you...well then what has to be done shall be done

 

[Tomahawk202]

Hey, Tomahawk....If an officer of the the law steps on my private property, without a cause, can I defend my property with a .300 Win. pointed at his face.?......because he also carries a gun...I might feel threatened...??

LOL you need help man.....

 

[toppick08]

if he shows you no badge and doesn't declare who he is, go for it...he is a civilian/criminal as far as you know



not advocating violence on cops...its a joke lol. but if you have reason to believe he is going to hurt you...well then what has to be done shall be done

Just want to know the facts......That's all.....

 

[LordStanley]

I guess you guys don't like any movies with guns in it either then?? It is an ad and suppose to look sexy I guess, I am sure Life, Liberty, ect... doesn't advocate "mexican carry" as they seemed like pretty squared away folks.


Anyway if she does shoot it off, can I have it????

I didnt say that... I love action movies with guns and Violence. And Chicks with guns. I nearly creamed my jeans the first time I got my wife to shoot my collection. However, before I put a firearm in her hand we had a one on one safety overview of the Do's and Dont's.

If your going to hold/carry a firearm, do it right. Sorry, but mexican carry looks stupid and its dangerous. But thats just me.... I think too much about safety.

 

[Novus Collectus]

Is a sawed-off 12 legal in 'da house......Mr. Policeman.........?????????

A sawed off shotgun is legal in MD as long as it is registered federally with the proper taxes paid and only possessed by the owner (or in their presence).

 

[Novus Collectus]

Hey, Tomahawk....If an officer of the the law steps on my private property, without a cause, can I defend my property with a .300 Win. pointed at his face.?......because he also carries a gun...I might feel threatened...??

No, not really. If they are not trespassing at the time, then it is at least assault. If you posted tresspassing signs and they were trespassing, then you have a common law right to conduct a citizen's arrest. If you are not placing them under arrest or stopping an attack upon you or your dwelling by them, then in MD it may be assault.
Grey area.

But you can use force, and even deadly force if necessary, to resist an unlawful, warrantless arrest. MD is one of the few states (I think there are about a dozen) that still allows the common law right to resist a police officer in an unlawful arrest.

 

[AK-74me]

I didnt say that... I love action movies with guns and Violence. And Chicks with guns. I nearly creamed my jeans the first time I got my wife to shoot my collection. However, before I put a firearm in her hand we had a one on one safety overview of the Do's and Dont's.

If your going to hold/carry a firearm, do it right. Sorry, but mexican carry looks stupid and its dangerous. But thats just me.... I think too much about safety.

You are right, I was just sayin that it is obviously not a poster for firearms safety. Just a ad picture.

 

[AK-74me]

A sawed off shotgun is legal in MD as long as it is registered federally with the proper taxes paid and only possessed by the owner (or in their presence).

Yup, go up to Jessup get finger printed, pay your tax stamp, wait a few months and have fun.

 

[Novus Collectus]

Yup, go up to Jessup get finger printed, pay your tax stamp, wait a few months and have fun.

There is a way to cut out the State Police out of the proscess.

 

[AK-74me]

There is a way to cut out the State Police out of the proscess.

Really?? I thought that was a state requirement??

 

[Novus Collectus]

Really?? I thought that was a state requirement??

Incorporations and trusts

 

[AK-74me]

Incorporations and trusts

Gotcha

 

[ironintestines]

Actually the street sweepers are legal in MD and getting them is like getting any other DD in MD. Has to be have been imported before a certain date though and forget about getting a new one from South Africa into this country.

Never ever said ya couldn't posses/own a street sweeper in MD.. It's all about the form 4's..
Locating pre-86 can be a biatch sometimes..

Why get a street sweeper when USAS-12's are far superior??

 

[Novus Collectus]

Never ever said ya couldn't posses/own a street sweeper in MD.. It's all about the form 4's..
Locating pre-86 can be a biatch sometimes..

Why get a street sweeper when USAS-12's are far superior??

Street sweepers like the Striker are semi auto and are not subject to the 1986 FOPA. They are fully transferrable if manufactured and imported before the ATF classified them as destructive devices (in the 90s I think) and were properly registered.
Also if one has the means, one could manufacture a copy of a Striker if they pay the proper tax and they can also transfer to someone else at a later date.