Is there really a war going on between Ukraine and Russia?

[vraiblonde]

Or is it just a money laundering scheme?

For someone who was begging and pleading for money, saying lives are at stake, Zelenskyy doesn't seem terribly motivated to stop the "war".

Elon Musk Roasts Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy with a Savage Reply After Zelenskyy Laughs Off Possibility of Trump Negotiating an End to Ukraine-Russia War (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is in for a rude awakening after he had his way shaking down the Biden-Harris regime for billions of dollars to fund the never-ending war with Russia.

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It's going to come out that this was nothing more than a corruption scheme, watch and see.

 

[GregV814]

just a money laundering scheme?

50/40/10

50 Biden, 40 Scootin Putin, 10 Zelenskyy

 

[SamSpade]

It surprises me little that people are profiting from war. But the level of devastation leaves little doubt that there’s a war going on. Russia has pretty much depleted its reserves of experienced soldiers. They’re paying Koreans and others to fight.

 

[vraiblonde]

It surprises me little that people are profiting from war. But the level of devastation leaves little doubt that there’s a war going on. Russia has pretty much depleted its reserves of experienced soldiers. They’re paying Koreans and others to fight.

How do we know that though? I haven't seen it, have you? I know what the TV people say, but I personally haven't seen anything of the sort. And again, Zelenskyy doesn't seem to want it to ever end.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Is there really a war going on between Ukraine and Russia?​

Or is it just a money laundering scheme?

For someone who was begging and pleading for money, saying lives are at stake, Zelenskyy doesn't seem terribly motivated to stop the "war".

It's going to come out that this was nothing more than a corruption scheme, watch and see.

Actually it is a war between the US and Russia. (Because Russia bad. Has lots and lots of natural resources. Selling to others that US energy companies want to. Selling their energy in other than US dollars, etc., etc., etc..) Ukraine is just a proxy. How? Because we overthrew their democratically elected government, and president, and installed a government that would, by all rights, be a vassal government, controlled by those in Washington. But yes, it is also a money laundering scheme that mostly benefits those within, and those with ties to, the US.

Remember, it was only just a short while ago that Biden and Son, well before he even occupied the White House, were among the first to profit. Along with many others. Heck, Hunter Biden served on the board of the Ukrainian oil and gas company, Burisma Holdings, from 2014 to 2019. Never did anything and got paid $$millions. Such as our dear Hillary. By way of the Clinton Foundation, pay-to-play arrangements, with a Ukraine oligarch. By the way, it was in 2014 that we conducted that coup d'etat in Ukraine. Just a happy coincidence.

And let's also not forget the true motive for going into Libya. Circa 2011. Emails by Hillary, showed that Libya's plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO's intervention. Aka the reason for the killing of Muammar Gaddafi. Which as it just so happens, is one of the reasons we are at war with Russia. A Russia, that just also happens to be a founding member of BRICS. You know, that newly formed organization that wants to replace the US dollar, (aka Federal Reserve Notes), with something more substantial with which to conduct their trade?

Russia has pretty much depleted its reserves of experienced soldiers. They’re paying Koreans and others to fight.

Hahahahaha. A purveyor of propaganda news sources you are, and you think you know something. Ever hear of the book, The Art of War? A simple quote from said book, “All warfare is based on deception." To which I might add, 'All governments are based, and operate, on deception.'

 

[SamSpade]

How do we know that though? I haven't seen it, have you? I know what the TV people say, but I personally haven't seen anything of the sort. And again, Zelenskyy doesn't seem to want it to ever end.

I’ve seen probably hundreds of pics of blown blocks of buildings. I’ve seen lots if images of Mariopol just utterly flattened in every direction. Seen before and after pics of different cities in the Donbas - again flattened like a Cat 5 wiped it out.

This from multiple news sources all over Europe. Stats from nations that have now taken in nearly ten million refugees.

Some cities still strewn with the dead.

I have probably read battle reports about once a week since it began.

This is probably the most thoroughly documented conflict in the last thirty years besides our two conflicts in the Gulf.

 

[vraiblonde]

I’ve seen probably hundreds of pics of blown blocks of buildings. I’ve seen lots if images of Mariopol just utterly flattened in every direction. Seen before and after pics of different cities in the Donbas - again flattened like a Cat 5 wiped it out.

This from multiple news sources all over Europe. Stats from nations that have now taken in nearly ten million refugees.

Some cities still strewn with the dead.

I have probably read battle reports about once a week since it began.

This is probably the most thoroughly documented conflict in the last thirty years besides our two conflicts in the Gulf.

The media lies to us all the time. Unless Trump really is Hitler.

 

[SamSpade]

The media lies to us all the time. Unless Trump really is Hitler.

It would have to also be lying from nearly every media outlet in the world.

 

[Kyle]

It would have to also be lying from nearly every media outlet in the world.

30 years ago, I would’ve said that unlikely.

But now …

 

[vraiblonde]

It would have to also be lying from nearly every media outlet in the world.

Media sources all over the world have declared Trump 'Hitler'.

They also said covid would kill us all and we must wear masks and isolate to protect ourselves.