Islam: Explanation about the Ka'ba Stone

Starman3000m

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(Originating from the "Another Islamic Public Relations Cliché" thread)

This is in response to punjabigyr's commentary on the Ka'ba Stone that Muslims kiss out of reverence during the hajj (pilgrimage) to Mecca: There are varying accounts about the stone, one of which she brought up. Here is another variation:

Black Stone Ka’bah (Shi'a teachings)

Question: The Blackstone in the Ka’bah: what is its origin?
Could you please explain to me what is the meaning of the "black stone"? Why did Allah send it down from Heaven, and to which Prophet was it sent down?

Bismillah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem

The Black Stone was an archangel that was amongst the first to surrender to the will of Allah and pay allegiance to the Lordship of Allah and to the prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (S), and to the Successorship of Imam Ali (AS). For this Allah Almighty gave him the 'database' for all of His creatures who pay allegiance [to the Oneness and Lordship of Allah, the Prophethood of Rasulollah (S), and the Imamat of Imam Ali and his son-Imams (AS)]. He used to accompany Adam (AS) in the Paradise, and after Adam (AS) came down to earth, Allah sent him [the archangel] to earth as a gemstone. Adam (AS) carried the stone to Makkah and was in the corner of the Ka'bah when it was built. That's why when we go to Makkah we confirm to him - the 'Black Stone' - the Meethaaq – the covenant.
"What cause have ye why ye should not believe in Allah? And the Messenger invites you to believe in your Lord, and has indeed taken your Covenant, if ye are men of faith." 57:8
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Source: http://www.shirazi.org.uk/blackstone in Ka'ba.htm

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"The famous 'Stone of Cabar,' Kaaba, Cabir, or Kebir, at Mecca," says Jennings, "which is so devoutly kissed by the Faithful, is a Talisman. It is said that the figure of Venus is seen to this day engraved upon it with a crescent. This very Caaba itself was at first an idolatrous temple, where the Arabians worshipped Al-Uzza (God and Issa), that is Venus." (See Kenealy's Enoch, The Second Messenger of God.)

Source: Secret Teachings of All Ages: The Faith of Islam
 
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Aerogal

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I thought it was a left over from the arabs pagan days, kinda like our Christmas trees?
 

Starman3000m

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I thought it was a left over from the arabs pagan days, kinda like our Christmas trees?

Correcto Mundo!
Allah is “Lord of Sirius:
"That it is He Who giveth wealth and satisfaction; That He is the Lord of Sirius (the Mighty Star);" (Qur'an 053.048, 053.049)
[Note: Sirius originated in pagan worship of ancient Egyptians )

Isis (a.k.a. The Black Virgin – a.k.a. Sirius)

The symbol of Isis in the heavens was the star Sept (Sirius), which was greatly beloved because its appearance marked not only the beginning of a new year, but also announced the advance of the Inundation of the Nile, which betokened renewed wealth and prosperity of the country. As such Isis was regarded as the companion of Osiris, whose soul dwelt in the star Sah, i.e., Orion, and she was held to have brought about the destruction of the fiend Apep, and of his hosts of darkness by means of the might of her words of power. As the light-giver at this season of the year she was called Khut, as the mighty earth-goddess her name was Usert, as the Great Goddess of the Underworld she was Thenenet, as the power which shot forth the Nile flood she was Sati, and sept, as the embracer of the land and producer of fertility by her waters she was Anqet, as the producer and giver of life she was Ankhet, as the goddess of cultivated lands and fields she was Sekhet, as the goddess of the harvest she was Renenet, as the goddess of food which was offered to the gods she was Tcheft, and lived int he Temple of Tchefau, and as the great lady of the Underworld, who assisted in transforming the bodies of the blessed dead into those whrein they were to live in the realm of Osiris, her name was Ament, i.e., the "hidden" goddess. Source: Egypt: Gods - Isis


Comments from the Holy Bible:

“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” (Isaiah 14:12)

“Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?” Ref: Islam: Meteorite Worship of the black stone
 

Starman3000m

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Sounds like the book "the Satanic Verses" was spot on.................

Here's some more info about that:

The Gods of the Quraysh

The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.

The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.
The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.

Praying Toward Mecca

An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed.

It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.

The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire fertile crescent was involved in the worship of the moon.
This, in part, explains the early success of Islam among Arab groups that traditionally had worshiped the moon god.

The use of the crescent moon as the symbol for Islam which is placed on the flags of Islamic nations and on the top of mosques and minarets is a throwback to the days when Allah was worshiped as the moon god in Mecca.
While this may come as a surprise to many Christians who have wrongly assumed that Allah was simply another name for the God of the Bible, educated Muslims generally understand this point.

The Cult of the Moon God Crescent Moon Symbol
 

Matthew

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I thought it was a meteorite that fell to earth.

Thus makes the muslims no different from us other heathens on this planet complete with the delusions and self denials.
 
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