Islam's relation to the outside world. very simple

[Sparkzzz]

Mohammed, the founder of Islam, states:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

(Sahih Muslim 4294)

 

[Highlander]

Mohammed, the founder of Islam, states:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

(Sahih Muslim 4294)

I think it's just a matter of time. It's true. Most muslims we meet on a daily basis in America are very nice and seem to just want to be a part of America. In time, a percentage of them will show their true colors. Some goof from the middle east will give the command and all the sleepers will come to life and destroy America. I really don't think this is so far-fetched. In the mean time, just keep smiling and pretending they are no threat.

 

[rockfish]

I think it's just a matter of time. It's true. Most muslims we meet on a daily basis in America are very nice and seem to just want to be a part of America. In time, a percentage of them will show their true colors. Some goof from the middle east will give the command and all the sleepers will come to life and destroy America. I really don't think this is so far-fetched. In the mean time, just keep smiling and pretending they are no threat.

Look at who we have in the White House. Someone who is half muslim. They outsmarted us on 9/11, and they might just be outsmarting us again. It might just be closer than we think.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Look at who we have in the White House. Someone who is half muslim. They outsmarted us on 9/11, and they might just be outsmarting us again. It might just be closer than we think.

obama's not a muslims, relax. you can't be "half-muslim". either you accept islam or you don't. plenty of arab christians & atheists. with names like "hussein" or ali, etcc..

on the matter of "outbreeding" -- non-muslims can breed too. and convert them to our way of life, much easier than they convert westerners to theirs

on the subject of them "outsmarting" us -- HAHAHAHAH! muslims comprise, and with scant exception (that being sri lanka and maybe Paraguay) the 3rd world.

these people are the most illiterate, backward savages on planet earth. they're not gonna outsmart us anymore than a rat is gonna outsmart a chessmaster.


the issue that i'm trying to get across is that we have to, here and now, before some armageddon comes about through whatever means, stand up and confront islam.

even nice muslims. even the peaceful ones. get the lex park library to stop offering islamic prayer rooms at tax-payer expense. even though the people who use it have done no harm per-se... they're muslim. that's enough.

get legislation passed that recognizes that respect for faith is CONDITIONAL. and islam doesn't make the grade, so it's to be treated more like the ku-klux-klan than another 'spiritual path" that we have in mind when saying "religion".

and honestly, we're not gonna be outsmarted by 3rd world savages (3rd world precisely because of islam).

however, we can choose to appease them until we essentially nice our way into sharia.

or we can stand up to them, and make them respect us and play by western rules with no exception.



A good first step that is "close to home" is, unless someone has a better idea, to get the lex park library to stop offering islamic prayer rooms every friday.

by the way, Nonno has stated that he/she is in charge of that decision. feel free to contact nonno personally and let him/her know how stupid that decision is.

i submitted a paper request to that effect to the library. if Nonno had any sense left after forfitting a ton of it by allowing islamic prayer in a tax-funded building, he/she would have the good sense to read it and chew on it.

 

[Toxick]

Boy - I'm glad I'm not a Muslim, then.
















I'm also glad I'm not obsessed with them.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Boy - I'm glad I'm not a Muslim, then.
















I'm also glad I'm not obsessed with them.

obsession with negating a crippling and fascist ideology is no vice

funny, how the more people know about islam, the more obsessed they become with destroying it in the name of all that's good and true. must be some reason behind that, dontcha think?

you'd "obsess" too if you knew the cancer america is allowing to metastacize within itself by tolerating islam.

 

[forceofnature]

on the subject of them "outsmarting" us -- HAHAHAHAH! muslims comprise, and with scant exception (that being sri lanka and maybe Paraguay) the 3rd world.

these people are the most illiterate, backward savages on planet earth. they're not gonna outsmart us anymore than a rat is gonna outsmart a chessmaster.

That's what the British said about the new colonies. You cannot be complacent.

 

[Larry Gude]

Mohammed, the founder of Islam, states:

Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them....If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

(Sahih Muslim 4294)

Been kinda cool if Bush had kept reminding us of this as he went merrily along with his idea of war.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Been kinda cool if Bush had kept reminding us of this as he went merrily along with his idea of war.

the gov't is gonna take the initiative on this. they went about "respecting" islam by saying the mohammed cartoons shouldn't be shown, remember?

this has to be from the bottom up. bush or no bush, the next round of people elected to even the most "inconsequential" office (schoolboards, county, etc...), either republican or democrat or whatever, have to be aware of the unique evil of Islam and its being different from a "religion" as we think of the term -- and therefore should be treated differently.

and this has to reflect in different pressures and questions asked of its adherents. muslims make islam come to life, and it is they who must be held responsible and to account for allowing jihad to continue, while negating plans to stop it with the "great majority of moderates" lie.

jihadissts cut of your head, moderates hold down your feet. if they have a problem with that, they should reconsider their allegiance to islam. If not, we have to reconsider their right to stay in America. Hell, we've deported mexicans and interned the japanese for less than what muslims pull on a daily basis.

NOTE: nothing i've said here (or elsewhere) is a function of race. this isn't targeting arabs, or pakis or any type of "brown" people. caucasian muslims, black muslims, and everyone in between are singled out. And i don't see a problem with that since they're singled out based on their voluntary adherence to a violent anti-american/anti-freedom ideology. not any biological function, or a respectable measure of dissent.

this isn't analogous to targeting some minority ethnicity (which one? i haven't mentioned any as "it"). this is purely a function of adherence. if every muslim was whiter than snow... same deal.

 

[Highlander]

the gov't is gonna take the initiative on this. they went about "respecting" islam by saying the mohammed cartoons shouldn't be shown, remember?

this has to be from the bottom up. bush or no bush, the next round of people elected to even the most "inconsequential" office (schoolboards, county, etc...), either republican or democrat or whatever, have to be aware of the unique evil of Islam and its being different from a "religion" as we think of the term -- and therefore should be treated differently.

and this has to reflect in different pressures and questions asked of its adherents. muslims make islam come to life, and it is they who must be held responsible and to account for allowing jihad to continue, while negating plans to stop it with the "great majority of moderates" lie.

jihadissts cut of your head, moderates hold down your feet. if they have a problem with that, they should reconsider their allegiance to islam. If not, we have to reconsider their right to stay in America. Hell, we've deported mexicans and interned the japanese for less than what muslims pull on a daily basis.

NOTE: nothing i've said here (or elsewhere) is a function of race. this isn't targeting arabs, or pakis or any type of "brown" people. caucasian muslims, black muslims, and everyone in between are singled out. And i don't see a problem with that since they're singled out based on their voluntary adherence to a violent anti-american/anti-freedom ideology. not any biological function, or a respectable measure of dissent.

this isn't analogous to targeting some minority ethnicity (which one? i haven't mentioned any as "it"). this is purely a function of adherence. if every muslim was whiter than snow... same deal.

I just googled "Muslim violence" and was amazed how much trouble they are causing around the world. From the Phillipines, to Thialand, to Turkey, they are killing people right and left in the name of Allah.

Take some time and read some of the news stories. Then, tell me we should respect Muslims and let them live among us as if they are no threat.

 

[Sparkzzz]

I just googled "Muslim violence" and was amazed how much trouble they are causing around the world. From the Phillipines, to Thialand, to Turkey, they are killing people right and left in the name of Allah.

Take some time and read some of the news stories. Then, tell me we should respect Muslims and let them live among us as if they are no threat.

PRE-F_ING-CISELY.

thank you.



NOTE: while killing people is one of our favorite hobbies as a species, it bears mentionning that muslims do it uniquely and singularly "in the name of allah". not out of alleged "oppression" or taxation without representation, or any other "secular" or "logical" cause.

but in the name of allah -- in the name of islam. with scant opposition from the rest of the "moderate" muslims, who are instead too busy making up excuses to allow jihad to continue.

excellent call.

good way to start: let the lex park library know that you DEMAND (not request) they stop allowing islamic prayer in a tax-funded building.

contact Nonno about it also, for nonno states it's his/her call whether or not to allow such things.

 

[Highlander]

PRE-F_ING-CISELY.

thank you.



NOTE: while killing people is one of our favorite hobbies as a species, it bears mentionning that muslims do it uniquely and singularly "in the name of allah". not out of alleged "oppression" or taxation without representation, or any other "secular" or "logical" cause.

but in the name of allah -- in the name of islam. with scant opposition from the rest of the "moderate" muslims, who are instead too busy making up excuses to allow jihad to continue.

excellent call.

good way to start: let the lex park library know that you DEMAND (not request) they stop allowing islamic prayer in a tax-funded building.

contact Nonno about it also, for nonno states it's his/her call whether or not to allow such things.

Oh, I guess you haven't heard. Obamie is going to talk to the Muslims and explain to them that what they are doing is not nice. Then, everything will be OK.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Oh, I guess you haven't heard. Obamie is going to talk to the Muslims and explain to them that what they are doing is not nice. Then, everything will be OK.

k Osama can go suck on a pole. don't worry about what some higher-ups do since it's out of our control anyways.

focus on things you CAN control. like local politix. like tax-funded rooms being used for islamic prayers in the lex park library. "small stuff" like telling the somd mosque in LaPlata what's up and that it's on notice for any perceived support of any overseas jihad group or islamist legislation here (like supporting bans on mocking mohammed).

even "small stuff" has precedent that can be applied elsewhere. this has got to be bottom-up, so let's start with what we can control instead of whining about DC top dogs -- ban islam from the lex. park library, stuff to that effect.

 

[Baja28]

by the way, Nonno has stated that he/she is in charge of that decision. feel free to contact nonno personally and let him/her know how stupid that decision is.

Who is Nonno and how do we contact them?
Full name, title, address, phone number please.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Who is Nonno and how do we contact them?
Full name, title, address, phone number please.

I dunno Nonno's real info. I only know this character through this forum. member search should bring it up. Nonno has told that he/she's in charge of deciding regarding islamic prayer rooms in the lex park library, and that i should get my original submission to him -- i told nonno that i passed it through the library system and left my contact info (so far i've had no response. this was almost a month ago).

All i know is that nonno's a member here, and from what he's told me, he/she's in charge of allowing/not allowing islamic prayer rooms in a public building like the lex park library.

cuz such things are at the whim of one low-level government leech, and not enshrined in state-religion separation.

just look up nonno here, and message him/her with a dose of logic

(don't make it hysterical. rationally explain why this nonno is an idiot, if and to the extent that he's in charge of allowing islamic prayer in a tax-funded institution.)

 

[Baja28]

I dunno Nonno's real info. I only know this character through this forum. member search should bring it up. Nonno has told that he/she's in charge of deciding regarding islamic prayer rooms in the lex park library, and that i should get my original submission to him -- i told nonno that i passed it through the library system and left my contact info (so far i've had no response. this was almost a month ago).

All i know is that nonno's a member here, and from what he's told me, he/she's in charge of allowing/not allowing islamic prayer rooms in a public building like the lex park library.

cuz such things are at the whim of one low-level government leech, and not enshrined in state-religion separation.

just look up nonno here, and message him/her with a dose of logic

(don't make it hysterical. rationally explain why this nonno is an idiot, if and to the extent that he's in charge of allowing islamic prayer in a tax-funded institution.)

Me thinks "numnuts nonno know nothing" is having a lil fun at your expense.

 

[Sparkzzz]

Me thinks "numnuts nonno know nothing" is having a lil fun at your expense.

heh, if so i don't mind . not like ya'll know who i *really* am anymore than we know about nonno. so im not gonna be all embarassed at the supermarket or something.

maybe i'm a housewife, or a teenager or the mayor

 

[Sparkzzz]

Me thinks "numnuts nonno know nothing" is having a lil fun at your expense.

and as you might imagine, i'm lovin the pic. gotta draw up a ugly profit mohammed (piss be upon him) for proper exercise of free speech