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GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Secret Service deleted texts messages from Jan. 6: Government watchdog


The Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General said messages sent between Jan. 5 and 6 were deleted “as part of a device-replacement program,” according to a letter to lawmakers, dated Wednesday, obtained by the Associated Press.

The messages were erased after OIG requested electronic communications between the agents during its probe into the Capitol siege.

Homeland Security personnel were also told they couldn’t provide records to the inspector general and any records would first have to be reviewed by DHS attorneys.

“This review led to a weeks-long delays in OIG obtaining records and created confusion over whether all records had been produced,” the letter, which was shared with leaders of the House and Senate Homeland Security Committees, states.

The Secret Service, in response, denied any malintent with the erasure of the messages.

“The insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false. In fact, the Secret Service has been fully cooperating with the OIG in every respect — whether it be interviews, documents, emails, or texts,” the federal agency said in a statement, obtained by Politico.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

The Curious Case Of Ray Epps And The January 6 Committee



A lot of ways that's the strangest video to emerge from January six . We played it several times this quote, we need to go into the capitol, into the capitol, Ray Epps tells the crowd. He says it repeatedly. He's soo emphatic about it, encouraging other people to commit a crime that the crowd around him decides he must be a federal agent. They began chanting, as you just heard, fed, fed. So shortly after that video surfaced, the FBI placed reps on a list of people wanted Ford questioning. They released it to the public and you can understand why they did that, according to the Justice Department, what Ray did on that, video is a federal crime, in fact. But administration has charged several people with seditious conspiracy for doing precisely what you just saw Ray Epps do, urging others to enter the Capitol complex on January six.

Here, for example, is a quotes from a DOJ press release. It describes the federal case against five members of the so-called Proud Boys a group you're supposed to be terrified of, quote, on January six. One, the defendants directed, mobilized and led members of the crowd onto the capitol grounds and into the Capitol. And quote again, that's what you just saw ray Epps tried to do. But here's the difference others would have done that are in prison or facing long terms in prison, but no charges have ever been filed against Ray Epps despite the fact there's no question did it because once more it's on tape. That's very strange. It just is . And we don't care how people call us . Thanks for pointing that out. It is strange and we'd like an answer to what the heck a is going on now. We've asked on this show repeatedly to explain why he thinks he has escaped prosecution. And we'll ask him once again and we will keep asking because we think this is very obvious and important question that gets to the heart of what is this exactly?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Secret Service Leaves the January 6th Committee and the Press Fuming With Announcement on Supposed 'Evidence'






How many times can one committee chase its own tail? Every single time Liz Cheney and crew hit a dead end, we are assured that if they just had “this” piece of unobtainable “evidence,” the entire Trump “insurrection” conspiracy would be proved true. Committee Chair Bennie Thompson is even quoted as believing these text messages could provide critical details about the Secret Service’s involvement on January 6th.

Do you see where this is going? The January 6th committee has absolutely nothing to prove their grand theory of a Trump-led coup, so now they are looking for a scapegoat to blame their failure on. You see, it wasn’t that their entire investigation was dumb, partisan, and pointless. It’s that it was thwarted by that dastardly Secret Service deleting text messages as part of a phone upgrade. And surely those missing messages provide the smoking gun, right?

The entire thing is farcical. What does the committee think the Secret Service was doing on January 6th? Does anyone really think its leadership and agents were part of an attempt to take over the government? Besides, the deletion of the text messages is being defended by Joe Biden’s own appointee. Is the theory now that Biden officials are pro-January 6th?

As to whether any laws regarding record keeping were broken here, I doubt it. It seems that the Secret Service has the receipts to show the phone issues were months in the making and did not happen suddenly after January 6th. So, while the press fret and the committee fumes, there’s very little that is likely to come from this. They’ll just have to look elsewhere for their “evidence” of an organized coup that didn’t happen.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member


Turley writes:

It is difficult to make a criminal case over what an official failed to do. Yet the last hearing seemed to focus on a number of things that did not occur, from a draft tweet that was not sent to an executive order that was never signed. There were discussions of appointing Trump attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel, seizing voting machines or replacing the Justice Department’s leadership. As unnerving as these proposals were, they also were not carried out.
It is the type of evidence used to show mens rea — “guilty mind.” However, crimes generally require both guilty minds and guilty acts. Building a criminal case on the failure to act to stop the violence is a notoriously difficult case to make. It has been raised in various contexts without success even when officials had direct law enforcement duties, as in Seattle with the CHOP zone in the summer of 2020. It is even more difficult when the House committee has blocked any serious investigation into the potentially contributing failure of Congress to take better precautions before the riot, another costly act of omission.

Turley concludes that the committee “has made a case against Trump personally and politically. It has not done so criminally.” If they’re going to do that, they’d better do it Thursday.





 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Trump watched supporters attack Capitol on television as aides begged him to act, committee says

Republican committee member Adam Kinzinger said then-president Trump “did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the Ellipse and telling the mob to go home — he chose not to act.”

“The mob was accomplishing President Trump's purpose. So of course he didn't intervene,” he added.

The committee said its eighth public hearing would focus on Mr Trump’s refusal to condemn the violence being carried out in his name at the Capitol.

Vice-chair Liz Cheney, Republican congresswoman from Wyoming, said Mr Trump “never picked up the phone that day to order his administration to help”.

“He did not call the military. His Secretary of Defense received no order. He did not call his Attorney General. He did not talk to the Department of Homeland Security,” Ms Cheney said. “Mike Pence did all of those things; Donald Trump did not.”


What was Trump supposed to do about a LOCAL Police Issue .... he was lambasted for suggesting sending in the FEDS to Portland over the Rioting

All Supposition, Innuendo and Assumption



Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots



Sund told the Post that House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving was concerned with the "optics" of declaring an emergency ahead of the protests and rejected a National Guard presence. He says Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger recommended that he informally request the Guard to be ready in case it was needed to maintain security.

Like Sund, Irving and Stenger have also since resigned their posts.

Sund says he requested assistance six times ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol. Each of those requests was denied or delayed, he says.

Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser also wanted a light police presence at the Capitol. She reportedly wanted to avoid a similar scenario as last summer, when federal forces responded to demonstrators opposed to police abuses who assembled near the White House.

During Wednesday's violence, Bowser requested, and received, a limited force of 340 from the D.C. National Guard. Those troops were unarmed and their job was to help with traffic flow — not law enforcement, which was meant to be handled by D.C. police.

When the mob reached the Capitol complex at about 12:40 p.m. ET on Wednesday, it took about 15 minutes for the west side perimeter of the building to be breached, he says. The Capitol Police contingent, which numbered around 1,400 that day, was quickly overrun by the estimated 8,000 rioters.

"If we would have had the National Guard we could have held them at bay longer, until more officers from our partner agencies could arrive," he says.

Sund says during a conference call with several law enforcement officials at about 2:26 p.m., he asked the Pentagon to provide backup.

Senior Army official Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt, director of the Army Staff, said on the call he couldn't recommend that Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy authorize deployment, Sund and others on the call told the Post. Piatt reportedly said, "I don't like the visual of the National Guard standing a police line with the Capitol in the background," the Post reported.

It would be more than three hours before any National Guard troops arrived, well after the damage at the Capitol had been done.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Fact Check: Bennie Thompson Falsely Claims Police ‘Killed’ in Capitol Riot


CLAIM: President Donald Trump failed to stop rioters who were “savagely beating and killing law enforcement officers.”

VERDICT: FALSE. While some rioters attacked police, they did not kill any; the only person killed was a fellow rioter.

The January 6 Committee held its eighth public hearing on Thursday, and its second in prime time. The event was billed as a crucial moment, the last scheduled hearing and one in which damning evidence would be revealed about Trump’s role.

Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS), the chair of the committee, opened proceedings by addressing the hearing remotely, since he was recently diagnosed with COVID-19. He claimed that Trump was indifferent to the “beating and killing” of police officers:

For 187 minutes on January 6th, this man of unbridled destructive energy could not be moved. Not by his aides, not by his allies, not by the violent chants of rioters, or the desperate pleas of those facing down the riot. And more tellingly, Donald Trump ignored and disregarded the desperate pleas of his own family, including Ivanka and Don Jr. Even though he was the only person in the world who could call off the mob he sent to the Capitol [sic] he could not be moved to rise from his dining room table and walk a few steps down the White House hallway into the press briefing room, where cameras were anxiously and desperately waiting to carry his message to the armed and violent mob savagely beating and killing law enforcement officers revenging the Capitol and hunting down the Vice President and various members of Congress. He could not be moved. [Emphasis added.]
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Uncle Remus is heading the Pelosi farce and trying to figure out how he can keep it going until November.
It's his first big chance to be a wheel.
 

Kyle

Ultra-MAGA
PREMO Member
Jan. 6 Committee Announces There Will Be Another Bonus Hearing After The Credits


WASHINGTON, D.C. — The January 6th Committee is urging Americans to stay tuned until the very end of the hearings, as there will be another very special bonus hearing after the credits roll.

"Trust me, you won't want to miss this," said Congressman Adam Schiff. "We're going to be teasing a brand-new original storyline and some exciting new characters for the next hearing — which will definitely nail Donald Trump for good. This is the beginning of the end for Trump."





Does this mean "The Walls Are Closing In?" :jet:
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I go into the motel breakfast room about 7:10-7:15 am every morning. The have the TV tuned to CNN. Every morning at that time, CNN is talking about the latest J6 committee news.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
This is the beginning of the end for Trump."

Nothing that lying POS says has been right in the last 6 years why should we be worried about Trump being in trouble with another hearing. How many does it take to establish guilt. If the person is guilty ? ONE.

I am certainly much more interested in the beginning of the end for Schiff---Cheney--Nadler--Pelosi---Schumer , Romney, and a dozen more.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Jonathan Turley notes Rep. Liz Cheney’s use of the word ‘confessions’ in January 6 committee hearing



The January 6 select committee held its second primetime hearing Thursday night, and Rep. Liz Cheney announced that there would be more hearings in September, as new information is coming in and “the dam has begun to break,” which is the new term for “the walls are closing in.” As we’ve said before, the idea of a January 6 select committee might have had some merit if its purpose were to fact-find about the Capitol riots and what went wrong, but instead, it’s turned into a criminal trial of former President Donald Trump, who’s guilty of not just inciting the riots but not doing more to stop the violence.

Law professor Jonathan Turley, who agrees that the events of January 6 were “horrific,” notes that Cheney’s claim that friends and associates of Trump have “confessed” only contributes to the idea that this is nothing but a show trial.







Turley writes:

However, it was the true confessions moment that stood out in the closing summation. Cheney said that more people will be called to come forward. She then added:
“The case against Donald Trump in these hearings is not made by witnesses who were his political enemies. It is instead a series of confessions by Donald Trump’s own appointees, his own friends, his own campaign officials, people who worked for him for years, and his own family. They have come forward. And they have told the American people the truth.”

Declaring that Trump family members and former officials have now “confessed” only played into the criticism of these hearings. By yielding to the temptation to exclude any opposing voices or views, the Committee seems intent on fulfilling the stereotype of the hearings as a show trial. It could be so much more but that requires politicians to do something that they are almost genetically resistant to: yielding time to opponents. It is the difference between creating a case for the next election as opposed to creating a record for history.


The committee has the “confessions” of Trump’s family members, but as Turley has asked before, do they have a criminal case against Trump? Because that seems to be what they’re building.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

‘Release the pee tape!’ Social media points and laughs at Schiff’s latest pearl-clutching Trump tweet



As Thursday’s primetime edition of the Jan. 6 spectacle was wrapping up, Schiff took to social media to paint former President Donald Trump as the villain in a never-ending crusade against the bad orange man. Reminiscent of a young Fred Jones in the cartoon “A Pup Named Scooby-Doo” the amateur sleuth, with the full investigative powers of the federal government at his disposal, can see no other culprit but the neighborhood bully, Red Herring, embodied by the former president.

“Donald Trump’s incitement of the mob and refusal to stop the violence will be remembered as the worst dereliction of duty by a president of the United States in modern history,” Schiff posted to Twitter with the absolute certainty of a true zealot.







 
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