Jeremiah 36 The burnt scroll

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Jeremiah 36:1 In the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, this word came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “Take a scroll and write on it all the words I have spoken to you concerning Israel, Judah and all the other nations from the time I began speaking to you in the reign of Josiah till now. 3 Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster I plan to inflict on them, they will each turn from their wicked ways; then I will forgive their wickedness and their sin.”
4 So Jeremiah called Baruch son of Neriah, and while Jeremiah dictated all the words the Lord had spoken to him, Baruch wrote them on the scroll. 5 Then Jeremiah told Baruch, “I am restricted; I am not allowed to go to the Lord’s temple. 6 So you go to the house of the Lord on a day of fasting and read to the people from the scroll the words of the Lord that you wrote as I dictated. Read them to all the people of Judah who come in from their towns. 7 Perhaps they will bring their petition before the Lord and will each turn from their wicked ways, for the anger and wrath pronounced against this people by the Lord are great.”
8 Baruch son of Neriah did everything Jeremiah the prophet told him to do; at the Lord’s temple he read the words of the Lord from the scroll. 9 In the ninth month of the fifth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, a time of fasting before the Lord was proclaimed for all the people in Jerusalem and those who had come from the towns of Judah. 10 From the room of Gemariah son of Shaphan the secretary, which was in the upper courtyard at the entrance of the New Gate of the temple, Baruch read to all the people at the Lord’s temple the words of Jeremiah from the scroll.
11 When Micaiah son of Gemariah, the son of Shaphan, heard all the words of the Lord from the scroll, 12 he went down to the secretary’s room in the royal palace, where all the officials were sitting: Elishama the secretary, Delaiah son of Shemaiah, Elnathan son of Akbor, Gemariah son of Shaphan, Zedekiah son of Hananiah, and all the other officials. 13 After Micaiah told them everything he had heard Baruch read to the people from the scroll, 14 all the officials sent Jehudi son of Nethaniah, the son of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, to say to Baruch, “Bring the scroll from which you have read to the people and come.” So Baruch son of Neriah went to them with the scroll in his hand. 15 They said to him, “Sit down, please, and read it to us.”
So Baruch read it to them. 16 When they heard all these words, they looked at each other in fear and said to Baruch, “We must report all these words to the king.” 17 Then they asked Baruch, “Tell us, how did you come to write all this? Did Jeremiah dictate it?”
18 “Yes,” Baruch replied, “he dictated all these words to me, and I wrote them in ink on the scroll.”
19 Then the officials said to Baruch, “You and Jeremiah, go and hide. Don’t let anyone know where you are.”
20 After they put the scroll in the room of Elishama the secretary, they went to the king in the courtyard and reported everything to him. 21 The king sent Jehudi to get the scroll, and Jehudi brought it from the room of Elishama the secretary and read it to the king and all the officials standing beside him. 22 It was the ninth month and the king was sitting in the winter apartment, with a fire burning in the firepot in front of him. 23 Whenever Jehudi had read three or four columns of the scroll, the king cut them off with a scribe’s knife and threw them into the firepot, until the entire scroll was burned in the fire. 24 The king and all his attendants who heard all these words showed no fear, nor did they tear their clothes. 25 Even though Elnathan, Delaiah and Gemariah urged the king not to burn the scroll, he would not listen to them. 26 Instead, the king commanded Jerahmeel, a son of the king, Seraiah son of Azriel and Shelemiah son of Abdeel to arrest Baruch the scribe and Jeremiah the prophet. But the Lord had hidden them.
27 After the king burned the scroll containing the words that Baruch had written at Jeremiah’s dictation, the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah: 28 “Take another scroll and write on it all the words that were on the first scroll, which Jehoiakim king of Judah burned up. 29 Also tell Jehoiakim king of Judah, ‘This is what the Lord says: You burned that scroll and said, “Why did you write on it that the king of Babylon would certainly come and destroy this land and wipe from it both man and beast?” 30 Therefore this is what the Lord says about Jehoiakim king of Judah: He will have no one to sit on the throne of David; his body will be thrown out and exposed to the heat by day and the frost by night. 31 I will punish him and his children and his attendants for their wickedness; I will bring on them and those living in Jerusalem and the people of Judah every disaster I pronounced against them, because they have not listened.’”
32 So Jeremiah took another scroll and gave it to the scribe Baruch son of Neriah, and as Jeremiah dictated, Baruch wrote on it all the words of the scroll that Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire. And many similar words were added to them.

This is from Bible-studys.org.

“The fourth year of Jehoiakim” 605 B.C. was a critical time in Judah’s history. The Babylonians had defeated the Egyptians at Carchemish to the north and would take control of all of the ancient Near East.​
We must remember that the 4th year of Jehoiakim is the same as the first year of Nebuchadnezzar.
Jeremiah had been speaking the Word God had put into his mouth to speak in prophecy. Now, we see the written Word is powerful as well. This written Word would be the second witness against them. The two great powers in the world are God's spoken Word and His written Word. Now, we see them both being brought to these rebellious people to try to get them to listen and change. When a person prophesies from God, the Words are actually God's Words in the mouth of the prophet. They are inspired. Josiah did right in the sight of God. It was his successors Jehoahaz (Shallum), Jehoiakim, Jehoiachin (also known as Jeconiah and Coniah), and Zedekiah that were evil rulers.
It is instructive that Baruch read the scroll “in the ears of all the people”, but there is no response from the people to the prophet’s message (Psalm 36:1).​
They asked if Baruch had written these words from memory or actual dictation from the inspired prophet. The latter was true. They were concerned it might be God’s Word.
Jehoiakim hated the true prophets of the Lord and had executed Urijah for preaching of the coming judgment. The king would have likely done the same thing to Baruch and Jeremiah if the officials had not sent them into hiding before taking the scroll to him. The act of cutting up the scroll reflected Jehoiakim’s disdain for the Word of God and perhaps an attempt to thwart its message. However, the authority of the king was nothing compared to the power of God’s Word.​
Unlike the godly Josiah who repented at the hearing of the Lord’s message on a scroll (2 Kings 22:10-11), the godless Jehoiakim destroyed the “roll”. However, the message was rewritten with additional prophecies. The extent of the material in the earlier scroll is not known. Jehoiakim’s action and Jeremiah’s dictation of his message again may have had something to do with the final arrangement of Jeremiah’s prophecies.​
Jehoiakim’s response to the prophetic scroll is in direct contrast to Josiah’s reaction to the discovery of the Book of the Law (2 Kings Chapter 22). Josiah had feared the Lord and had “torn” (the same Hebrew verb used here for Jehoiakim’s “cutting it with the penknife … the roll”), his garments. Josiah had burned Judah’s idols; Jehoiakim burned the roll in his fireplace. Josiah’s godly response had led to a national revival; Jehoiakim was plunging his people into destruction.
Jehoiakim’s destruction of the roll had no effect because the Lord simply commissioned Jeremiah to make another roll, and words were added to it during the rest of Jeremiah’s ministry. Throughout history, God’s Word has survived every evil attempt to destroy it or silence its message.
God's Words live on. You may burn the Bibles, but someone would just write them down again. Now, God adds the happenings, here with Jehoiachin, to the book. The Word of God is alive. Baruch wrote it down again just as God had instructed Jeremiah.​
This isn't just distorting the truth by throwing a couple of gospel rock songs into the Sunday Service. This was an attempt to destroy God's message all together.... rudely.... with a pocket knife and a fire pit. How rude!!!

This is from the easy English site.

We do not know why Jeremiah could not go to the Temple himself. Pashhur had put him in prison for a night. That happened after his message when he broke the jar. Perhaps the priests would not allow him to go in the Temple because of all his prophecies. They wanted to kill Jeremiah but he had escaped death. He had used the LORD’s name when he spoke his prophecies. The officials and the people had accepted that they were the LORD’s words. In times of national crisis, people ate no food for a day. When Baruch read the scroll, there would be many people in the Temple. They would listen to the prophecies. Jeremiah still hoped that the people would pray to the LORD. He wanted them to turn from their wicked behaviour. Then perhaps the LORD’s punishment might not happen​
The 9th month of Jehoiakim's 5th year as king was December 604 BC. The people ate no food probably because of the Babylonians. Recently they had attacked and destroyed the city called Ashkelon. Baruch read the scroll in the room that belonged to Gemariah. His father, Shaphan, had been secretary when Josiah was the king. That was when the priest found the scroll of the Law in the Temple (2 Kings 22:3, 8-10). There is no record about the public reaction to the message that Baruch read out to them.
When Baruch arrived with the scroll, the officials were friendly and polite. They invited him to sit down and to read the scroll to them. They listened to what Jeremiah said. And they were afraid. They realised that they had to report the contents of the scroll to the king. First they made sure that the scroll was genuine. Baruch agreed that Jeremiah had dictated to him all the words on the scroll. They were Jeremiah's words. They were not Baruch’s words. The officials remembered how the king had killed Uriah. Elnathan, son of Achbor, had brought Uriah back from Egypt when the king ordered him to do so. So they told Jeremiah and Baruch to go and to hide.
Here's my view on the "written word". Back in the day... well back in the seventies..... Bibles were burned because they were not the correct "translation". Even today.... the Primitive Baptist Church depends solely on the King James Version. I find that kind of ironic considering I simply can not understand the King James Version with all its thees and thous..... and my great great whatever grandfather [son or grandson of Captain George Athey] was a Primitive Baptist preacher right up the road in Charles County.

I know people who distort the Bible. They cherry pick the verses to find something that will help them make their lies seem valid. How in the world is the ordinary human supposed to Believe when so many other ordinary humans are being fed lies to compare to the truth. The truth is very inconvenient.... after all.... it does say.... "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:24.

I hear so many "feel good" preachers these days. I hear they whisper in the ears of leaders telling them exactly what they want to hear.... calling them the "chosen one" or the "only one". I hear they whisper in the ears of the rich.... "you deserve"..... "you are chosen".

IMHO.... they are chosen by satan..... to skew the message..... and they blame it on translation...... because even when the cut the word with a pocket knife and throw it in the flames..... there's another copy..... somewhere... and now there's this Bible online.... in the translation of our choice..... that even old ladies with online Bibles and online commentary can use to bore people to death on a daily basis.... right?

Josiah was a good king.... who knew the truth when he heard it. Jehoiakim was a rich, rude, self-absorbed moron who knew the truth, found it inconvenient, so he ordered that it be destroyed.... and replaced with the story he wanted people to hear.

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