Joe Biden: I Will Force Americans to Wear Masks in Public

GURPS

INGSOC
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There are numerous factors beyond our control that created this reality — perhaps the weather, or the population density, or centralized nature of the city, or whatever else researchers will uncover one day. There’s a reason why San Francisco recorded fewer than 50 coronavirus deaths and New York City has about 18,000, and it’s probably not the ideology of its mayors. But that works both ways around. There is simply no way that an open-minded person can arrive at the conclusion that red states bear some unique responsibility for this tragedy.

Let’s remember that initial national lockdown efforts were intended to flatten the curve so that hospitals wouldn’t be overwhelmed with COVID cases, not to shutter the economy in perpetuity (or until a Democrat wins the White House) to ensure that no one gets sick anymore. Other than the New York area, which is led by a governor who made perhaps the single most deadly policy mistake in the entire crisis, this goal has largely been achieved. In the United States, the death rate (the stat that matters more than any other) has been as low, or lower, than most major European nations:

Deaths per million:

Belgium: 854.0

UK: 657.7

Spain: 606.9

Italy: 575.3

Sweden: 523.7

France: 445.5

U.S.: 397.8

(All the foreign countries above, incidentally, have some form of socialized health-care system, which I’m constantly being assured by liberals would have mitigated the effects of coronavirus.)


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-lefts-coronavirus-narrative-is-a-myth/
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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4 Points to Understand the COVID-19 Surge in Texas

2. What’s the Death Rate?

Although the caseload in Texas is moving in the wrong direction, the death toll has been declining for months and peaked at 2.7% of all cases in late May, according to Texas Health and Human Services.

“Our death rate continues to plunge,” DeVore told The Daily Signal. “There has been a steep decline. We have seen the death rate decline every day.”

The number of coronavirus-related deaths in Texas is just under 2,500 as of Wednesday, according to Real Clear Politics’ tracker.

In raw numbers, that’s the 15th-highest death toll in the nation. But Texas is the second-largest state and, ranking states by population, its 86.1 deaths per million represent the 11th-lowest death rate.

Devore predicts that Texas will reach its peak in deaths in the next week or two before declining.

Texas had 31 COVID-19 deaths over the past seven days.

That’s fewer than the other states in the Sun Belt surge, which saw 65 deaths in California in the past seven days, 38 in Florida, and 36 in Arizona.

Texas is well behind the seven-day coronavirus death toll of 114 for New York state.
 

NPC

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Snowflake. Look how easily you allow your president to take advantage of you.


I'm a snowflake

:lol:

YOU have Nothing to counter the FACT you have no right to Trump's Taxes and Trump has NO Obligation to release his taxes.

All Fantasy and YOUR OPINION

Trumps is taking advantage of No One
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
With coronavirus cases surging in the United States, the media were quick to blame: “Several Republican-led states that moved quickly to reopen this spring at the urging of President Trump have seen new cases explode,” The New York Times reported.

Yet hyper-Democratic California is actually seeing the highest number of new cases. Yes, GOP-led Arizona, Florida, Georgia and Texas are also seeing issues. But the red-v.-blue template doesn’t fit reality.

Last week, the United States saw a single-day record of more than 52,000 new COVID-19 cases.

Counting the June numbers as a rise in infections of nearly 50 percent, The Washington Post explained: “States that took an aggressive approach to reopening led the country in infection spikes — along with California, the nation’s most populous state, where leaders have been more cautious.”

Most of the Sun Belt is seeing the same trend, yet California is somehow different? Funny: Six states including Cali saw record highs in cases on Wednesday — but Florida wasn’t one. Why not flag that?

https://nypost.com/2020/07/03/media-refuse-to-admit-the-coronavirus-doesnt-care-about-red-vs-blue/
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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The Coronavirus Lockdowns are Over...And These Studies Really Deliver a Death Blow

And as more data trickles in, the more studies are showing that lockdowns actually hurt this nation more than it benefited from them. In fact, like the CDC study on this virus’s mortality rate, it totally undercuts why we even had to stay home in the first place. In fact, maybe the first salvo in this virus being overblown was when the apocalyptic study from the Imperial College of London was proven to be total garbage. It also comes from the very liberal University of Berkeley (via WSJ) [emphasis mine]:

In what might turn out to be the best paper on the economics of Covid-19, a team of economists from the University of California, Berkeley carefully evaluated empirical data on social distancing, shelter-in-place orders, and lives saved. To measure the impact of social distancing, they gathered data from cellphones on travel patterns, foot traffic in nonessential businesses, and personal interactions.
Their findings? Social-distancing measures reduced person-to-person contact by about 50%, while harsher shelter-in-place rules reduced contact by only an additional 5%. Then, using data on Covid-19 infection and mortality, they estimated that these measures saved 74,000 lives. Finally, after using demographic data to adjust the VSL—which is lower for older people, who have fewer years to live—the study found that the gross benefit of social distancing has been a mere $250 billion.
That finding casts major doubt on the value of lockdowns and even social distancing as a method of reducing the spread of Covid-19
. While we can’t yet estimate a specific figure, the economic cost of social distancing and lockdowns will likely be more than $1 trillion.
[…]
Rather than validating draconian lockdown orders, the latest economic research on Covid-19 suggests that social-distancing efforts in general, and shelter-in-place measures in particular, have done more harm than good. That doesn’t mean that all such measures should be abandoned. “To socially distance or not to socially distance” is not the question. The question should be, what policies actually make sense?
To address that, a team of economists from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology recently published the results of a study that compared various alternative strategies for limiting the spread of Covid-19. They concluded that twice as many lives could be saved if governments focused limited resources on protecting the most vulnerable people rather than squandering them on those who seem to face almost no risk, such as children.





 

GURPS

INGSOC
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The Most Powerful Argument Against Forced Universal Masking That You Won't Read In The Establishment Media


There, I said it. The most powerful argument against universal masking is that it could in fact work to slow the spread of coronavirus. Please stay with me. I’m not saying we shouldn’t protect those who are vulnerable to the virus. Had we properly protected those in nursing homes, for example, we could have saved half the people who actually have died from this thing. Nevertheless, the facts are these: the virus is spreading at a rapid rate, but deaths have not spiked and have even decreased. The average age of those who are getting it is significantly younger than it was two months ago. And we’re not sure about this yet, but it also seems to have mutated into a weaker version that is more transmissible but less lethal than the version we saw in April.

The fact is, for all the suffering COVID-19 has caused among the elderly and immunocompromised, the actual death rate currently stands at less than half a percent and is declining rapidly as antibody studies come to light. The CDC recently estimated that 10 times the known cases have likely had the disease already and recovered. That’s probably a lowball estimate, but it equates to upwards of 10 percent of the U.S. population. As young people spread this seemingly milder version around while older folks take precautions, we’re ever closer to reaching herd immunity, which one recent study said can be attained with as little as 43 percent contracting the disease. That may still be a few months away, but in all honesty, it could be our only way out of this. They keep talking about vaccines, but no successful coronavirus vaccine has ever been produced and there’s little reason to think it will be now, nor that anything they roll out this quickly will be truly safe anyway.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is ‘very rare,’ WHO says

“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency’s Geneva headquarters. “It’s very rare.”

The virus is primarily spread via respiratory droplets when someone coughs or sneezes or if they touch a contaminated surface, scientists say.

Asymptomatic transmission is particularly worrisome for public health officials, leading many to institute severe lockdowns and policies requiring masks in public. That’s because those patients never develop symptoms and, in many cases, don’t even know they are infected. WHO officials say Covid-19 can also spread in the so-called pre-symptomatic stage — a few days before a patient shows symptoms.
 
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Crabcatcher79

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I'm a snowflake

:lol:

YOU have Nothing to counter the FACT you have no right to Trump's Taxes and Trump has NO Obligation to release his taxes.

All Fantasy and YOUR OPINION

Trumps is taking advantage of No One

Sad Trumptard Defending the presidents right to hide his con job
 

NPC

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Sad Trumptard ....

Did you think that up all by yourself ?

In other words you have NOTHING to stand on because YOU have NO Right Trump's Tax Returns so you name call ''


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Hijinx

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OK so there is a spike in cases BFD, that was expected, or it should have been.
But the major point is this: Is there also a corresponding spike in the percentage of deaths.

In other words 99% of those who got the flu survived it.
Has that number increased or decreased. If the survival rate is better , let 'er eat---open up and let's stop the BS.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
O’Connor and Dr. Atlas got into a discussion about how misleading the case metric is. It merely means a positive test. In the context of COVID-19, where approximately half of the cases are asymptomatic, it is a meaningless statistic. Further, as testing has become proactive, or required in some cases, and more widely available, saying there is a new case doesn’t denote illness.

Instead, Dr. Atlas asserts there should be a laser focus on who is getting infected and the death rate. He looks at each state’s data several times per day, and right now, the trend is clear. People who have confirmed cases of COVID-19 are in the younger age groups who do not suffer from severe illness. He says low-risk infections are a positive thing that will help us progress towards population immunity.

The data shows Dr. Atlas that we are doing an excellent job of protecting the vulnerable and preventing unneeded deaths. He even says the hospitalization numbers are misleading. For example, approximately 25-30% of patients are in the hospital with COVID-19, not for it. They come in for another medical reason and are tested, but have no symptoms.

Similarly, he notes ICU statistics are misleading. Citing Texas, which he reviewed because they are at 90% capacity, he said only 15% of those beds are occupied due to COVID-19. Regular medical care resumed, and patients not suffering from COVID-19 occupy the vast majority of the beds.

Other encouraging statistics include the length of stay and mortality. The time a COVID-19 patient spends in the hospital is half of what it was early in the pandemic. The mortality rate is 25% of what it was. He attributes this to spread to lower risk populations and improvement in treatment. Today’s news about hydroxychloroquine trials gives a reason for even more optimism. It may prevent hospitalizations if pushed to outpatient care on a broad scale.

Dr. Atlas attributes backtracking by several governors to fear and ignorance. Several failed to do what was required to protect vulnerable populations early in the pandemic and are doing political calculations.

He says public health experts are engaged in sloppy thinking among smart people. Instead, they should be lowering the level of fear people have by giving a realistic assessment of the severity of the disease for most people. COVID-19 has a 99% recovery rate. You might not know that if you watch CNN.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...ies-damn-lies-and-covid-19-statistics-n603433
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction

The latest positive results come from Vadodara, India, where city officials have conducted a major study involving more than 300,000 people, including “health workers and other frontline staff.”

The Indian Express reports:

The administration has analysed a sample of over 1 lakh [lakh = 100,000] residents, who were mostly close contacts of positive persons and the effect of HCQ in containing the transmission of the virus. According to the analysis, of the 48,873 close contacts of positive patients who took one dose of HCQ, 102 turned Covid-19 positive and 12 succumbed to the infection whereas 48 of the 17,776 close contacts of positive patients who took two doses of HCQ turned positive and only one died. The study also states that of the 33,563 close contacts of patients who took three HCQ doses, 43 tested positive and one died.
Local health official Dr. Devesh Patel told the paper, “It has shown positive results. We have the numbers and not one person has complained of complications. The only side effect reported is mild gastritis, which is common with administering heavy medicines and can be effectively handled.”

In other words, anyone who has taken the much more common azithromycin antibiotic for a simple sinus infection has probably suffered about the same distress — all gastric — as a subject of the Vadodara study.





When the coronavirus first broke out in this country, apparently our betters indulged in a little white lie about the efficacy of mask-wearing against COVID-19. We were originally told they weren’t needed by none other than Dr. Fauci himself (and many others) back in March. Was that to help make sure hoarders wouldn’t leave them without masks?

Then we were told that the HCQ was ineffective. Was that to make sure that the “right” people would have ready access to drugs they told us either didn’t work or were actually dangerous?

I’m no conspiracy theorist, but today’s news does make one wonder.


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...s-new-evidence-and-a-major-retraction-n636361
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Mask Shamer Crashes Into Man's Shopping Cart and Spits In His Face - And Claims She Has COVID


Question: Should someone with COVID be shopping at Costco or anywhere else? Mask or no mask?

If Mach knew she had COVID and was out shopping, well, that’s a problem. She should not only get off her high horse, she should donate it to the nearest ranch or petting zoo. She was potentially turning Costo into a COVID party.

As for the man, unless she can prove she was lying about having the virus with a very recent negative test result, he will have to be tested and possibly quarantined.

If she can prove she was lying, she merely made a terroristic threat to him and those around at the store. She has already been charged with battery and disorderly conduct.


People on both sides of the interminable and frankly mind-numbing mask debate need to take several deep breaths before reacting. Our nation is losing its mind. It’s way too easy to become famous these days, and there are more ways the fame can be dangerous. Crazy is coming in so fast from all over it’s becoming tedious. Sanity is the new sexy.

Elizabeth Mach, 45 and apparently a schoolteacher, has been made famous by her flash of temper. It’s likely to change her life for the worse for a while. Loss of job plus criminal charges may be on the way. As a parent, would you want her teaching your kid?


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