John 14:6

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dazed&fallen

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I know that Jesus Christ said. “I am the way the truth and the life. No man may cometh unto the father except by me.” Once again, this exclusionary principle has to do with people taking the word too literally. I do not feel that Christ was speaking of his physical identity, or persona. Whenever an individual does as much soul searching as Jesus did, I think they arrive at some very important metaphysical conclusions that aren’t easily understood by the general populous. First of all, that our sense of isolation from each other and the outside world is illusory. Though you and I identify with a particular body and mind, we are really part of something much greater (an ecosystem, a community, the cosmos). Christ was pointing to a truth within, not necessarily within himself at the exclusion of all others but to something very much within the grasp of all humanity. The apostle Paul wasn’t much of a mystic and never even had a personal relationship with Christ. The gospels of Thomas and Mary Magdalene didn’t fit well into his theories of God. It’s interesting, I would think Mary and Thomas would have had a more complete picture than Paul. But if you feel the gospel of Thomas is relevant consider this verse: 44 Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven." The father is Yahweh, the son is most certainly Jesus. How is the Holy Spirit to be explained? I’d say it’s something a little more universal than most people are given to believe, but what do I know? I’m just an ignorant kid. Om Namah Shivaya
 
gumbo

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dazed&fallen said:
44 Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven.
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I never did buy the Trinity BS.
As for the reasoning by the Church, Thomas and Mary , they were not apostles of Christ. Mary is at Question !
Other reasoning by the church is, the books were writing after the cannon . Mary is at Question again !
From what I understand The church also rejected books that were written by authors that did not wittiness the resurrection of Christ.
Mary again at Question !
There are parts in the NT I find very discriminatory about women, and if you ask devoted Christan's about it, they say that they don't take that part literally , but at the same time they insist that if you don't believe every word then none of it can be true :confused:
I do understand it was a letter by Paul to the church because the women was taking over the church with gossip and that it's a God inspired letter.

The point is most Christan's are willing to take this into consideration but nothing else that is written.
My theory is, and I get this from the old analogy of LOVE IS BLIND.
To know God is to love God, however you can't see him, but you can see his inspired words.
Which the Bible being the only thing tangible, so therefore it must be perfect !
Love being blind is why some people can be in love with someone that is a useless ,cheating low life that everyone else can see accept that person.
 
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2ndAmendment

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gumbo said:
I never did buy the Trinity BS.
As for the reasoning by the Church, Thomas and Mary , they were not apostles of Christ. Mary is at Question !
Other reasoning by the church is, the books were writing after the cannon . Mary is at Question again !
From what I understand The church also rejected books that were written by authors that did not wittiness the resurrection of Christ.
Mary again at Question !
There are parts in the NT I find very discriminatory about women, and if you ask devoted Christan's about it, they say that they don't take that part literally , but at the same time they insist that if you don't believe every word then none of it can be true :confused:
I do understand it was a letter by Paul to the church because the women was taking over the church with gossip and that it's a God inspired letter.

The point is most Christan's are willing to take this into consideration but nothing else that is written.
My theory is, and I get this from the old analogy of LOVE IS BLIND.
To know God is to love God, however you can't see him, but you can see his inspired words.
Which the Bible being the only thing tangible, so therefore it must be perfect !
Love being blind is why some people can be in love with someone that is a useless ,cheating low life that everyone else can see accept that person.
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Gumbo, you really need to post from knowledge. Did Paul witness the resurrection of Jesus. No, but the Bible has many books written by Paul. Did Mary Magdalene and Thomas witness the resurrection of Jesus? Yes.

So your post does not have credence.
 
2ndAmendment

2ndAmendment

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Oh Gumbo, I missed this.
Gumbo said:
Thomas and Mary , they were not apostles of Christ.
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Thomas certainly was an apostle.
Matthew 10:1-3

<sup id="en-NASB-23419">1</sup>Jesus summoned His twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every kind of disease and every kind of sickness. <sup id="en-NASB-23420">2</sup>Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; and James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

<sup id="en-NASB-23421">3</sup>Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;
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gumbo

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2ndAmendment said:
Gumbo, you really need to post from knowledge. Did Paul witness the resurrection of Jesus. No, but the Bible has many books written by Paul. Did Mary Magdalene and Thomas witness the resurrection of Jesus? Yes.

So your post does not have credence.
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I'm aware of what Peter said and how Paul's writing were accepted :spank:
And who doesn't know Mary and Thomas witnessed the resurrection.
As for credence. Was it not the Church that used this reasoning for rejecting some of the books that were not accepted ? So shoot me, I was being sarcastic because I have always felt the Bible is just a bit Anti Women
 
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gumbo

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2ndAmendment said:
Oh Gumbo, I missed this. Thomas certainly was an apostle.
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My Bad ! I didn't mean to type in Thomas there , just Mary.
3:30 am posting , I couldn't sleep. Bad Gumbo ! for now on I will read when I can't sleep. :peace:
 
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