Juneteenth holiday horror

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Four people are shot dead and at least 42 others injured so far this weekend as gun violence erupts across the nation - from Illinois to Missouri​

  • At least 20 people were shot, one fatally, during a Juneteenth celebration early Sunday morning in Willowbrook, Illinois
  • The gunfire erupted during an illegal street takeover attended by at least 300 people overnight outside of the Willowbrook shopping center
  • At least five people were killed and dozens injured in several other shootings across the country during the holiday weekend
 
SamSpade

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Five people were killed, many others shot in a total of a handful of mostly late to very late night crowds. I really hate to mention it - but this happens EVERY weekend, usually MORE people.

I don't know how this is going to come out and I suspect it does NOT - but - it sure sounds to me like a typical weekend across the nation, a typical weekend where Juneteenth celebrations are NOT going on.

It's just more sensational because it is THIS weekend. If it happens on a holiday weekend, then it can be news - if it happens on a regular weekend - well it isn't news, but it happens just the same.

The Willowbrook incident is weird - why is a crowd of 300+ people doing milling about a street and a shopping plaza parking lot at 12:30 in the morning?
 
SamSpade

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Near as I can tell - from Google - it's a small shopping center right off Rte 83. Kind of like setting up a party in the McKay's parking lot in Charlotte Hall, right along 235. The people just PICKED a spot, and decided to party there all night, evidently without permission.
 
glhs837

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SamSpade said:
Five people were killed, many others shot in a total of a handful of mostly late to very late night crowds. I really hate to mention it - but this happens EVERY weekend, usually MORE people.

I don't know how this is going to come out and I suspect it does NOT - but - it sure sounds to me like a typical weekend across the nation, a typical weekend where Juneteenth celebrations are NOT going on.

It's just more sensational because it is THIS weekend. If it happens on a holiday weekend, then it can be news - if it happens on a regular weekend - well it isn't news, but it happens just the same.

The Willowbrook incident is weird - why is a crowd of 300+ people doing milling about a street and a shopping plaza parking lot at 12:30 in the morning?
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SamSpade said:
Near as I can tell - from Google - it's a small shopping center right off Rte 83. Kind of like setting up a party in the McKay's parking lot in Charlotte Hall, right along 235. The people just PICKED a spot, and decided to party there all night, evidently without permission.
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Illegal street takeover.

But here's what I don't get. When people do illegal stuff, there should be maybe, I dunno, police to shut it down?


Get you a strike force, with a couple of killdozers. Declare riot and move the **** in. "You have 8 minutes to clear the street, then we ARE clearing them." Its just part of a larger lawlessness culture.
 
SamSpade

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glhs837 said:
Illegal street takeover.

But here's what I don't get. When people do illegal stuff, there should be maybe, I dunno, police to shut it down?


Get you a strike force, with a couple of killdozers. Declare riot and move the **** in. "You have 8 minutes to clear the street, then we ARE clearing them." Its just part of a larger lawlessness culture.
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Every Sunday - mostly - in front of Hobby Lobby, which is closed on Sundays - a bunch of car enthusiasts have a little show. It's a lot of people.
I'm sure they have "permission". Saturdays, in the lot of BAE - there is often but not always, a farmer's market. I am also sure - they have permission.

If you go down to Lancaster Park - TODAY - I'm betting you will see huge crowds of people celebrating and having picnics and games and so on.

I am betting they do NOT have any kind of permission - but they're also not hurting anyone. It's a public park.

I suspect "illegal takeovers" like this happen A LOT all over the country, but as long as they're not hurting anyone, people just let it go. I mean, let's for the sake of argument say there are pizza places and liquor stores in the plaza - you might actually WELCOME a party crowd in your parking lot, even if you didn't give your permission.
 
glhs837

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SamSpade said:
Every Sunday - mostly - in front of Hobby Lobby, which is closed on Sundays - a bunch of car enthusiasts have a little show. It's a lot of people.
I'm sure they have "permission". Saturdays, in the lot of BAE - there is often but not always, a farmer's market. I am also sure - they have permission.

If you go down to Lancaster Park - TODAY - I'm betting you will see huge crowds of people celebrating and having picnics and games and so on.

I am betting they do NOT have any kind of permission - but they're also not hurting anyone. It's a public park.

I suspect "illegal takeovers" like this happen A LOT all over the country, but as long as they're not hurting anyone, people just let it go. I mean, let's for the sake of argument say there are pizza places and liquor stores in the plaza - you might actually WELCOME a party crowd in your parking lot, even if you didn't give your permission.
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"Street" is operative word here. Were it just a parking lot, sure, but they spill over onto the road, and if you see the videos of the behavior it has no relation to Cars & Coffee or what you will find in Lancaster today. If I had a business I would be locking the doors. Just as likely to get looted as patronized.

 
Sneakers

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SamSpade said:
I suspect "illegal takeovers" like this happen A LOT all over the country, but as long as they're not hurting anyone, people just let it go. I mean, let's for the sake of argument say there are pizza places and liquor stores in the plaza - you might actually WELCOME a party crowd in your parking lot, even if you didn't give your permission.
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And the argument for "why don't the police step in" plays here. If they are not unruly, sending in the police may actually create a bad situation and a riot. Leave it alone, hope it doesn't escalate.
 
Hessian

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Media-driven Political correctness has two applied interpretations: Who is at fault? Corporations...and Racism.
The attempt to skew the actual causes is pretty sad...unfortunately millions would be willing to accept those excuses and vote accordingly.
Those who actually KNOW what causes this...well, they are not allowed into the conversation.
 
Hijinx

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I have noticed these car shows and other gatherings of the White supremacists and Domestic terrorist white people that seldom if ever turn into shooting galleries' . To some it might appear that these innocent meetings of white assault weapon owners are just that ,innocent meetings.
In reality they are there plotting another insurrection on the Capitol. By the way the police are welcomed there and treated as friends. which means the cops are in on the white supremacy. It is these white people who are causing all of the trouble on the weekends and Joe Biden is determined to see that these car owners are stripped of their fossil fuel burning classic cars.
We all know that assault weapons are not the weapon of choice in Chicago and other Democrat cities it is those pistols that go off on their own and carried by innocent black gangbangers that are the problem.
Somehow these weapons seem to know when it's a weekend and party is brewing , and they force themselves into the pockets of these innocent black men and when the party is rocking they jump out of the men's pockets and go off by themselves. All innocently ,obviously these guns are trained by the white supremacist domestic terrorist white urban home owner.
 
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herb749

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Hessian said:
Media-driven Political correctness has two applied interpretations: Who is at fault? Corporations...and Racism.
The attempt to skew the actual causes is pretty sad...unfortunately millions would be willing to accept those excuses and vote accordingly.
Those who actually KNOW what causes this...well, they are not allowed into the conversation.
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They can't arrest them. The, there's too many black men in jail lobby stopped that. Dumb thing is those criminals know it now and the one's who started the mess have moved on to other causes.
 
Hijinx

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herb749 said:
They can't arrest them. The, there's too many black men in jail lobby stopped that. Dumb thing is those criminals know it now and the one's who started the mess have moved on to other causes.
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Do the people that gather at these places go there to get shot?

Now: Let me explain. It's a holiday weekend and there is a large group of people gathering in a black neighborhood.
There is some drinking and partying and of course the chances are good in Chicago or some other Democrat city that there will be some shooting.

It would stand to reason that anyone who did not want to get shot would stay the hell away from such a place. Yet they don't.
 
Monello

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The urban sub culture handles every perceived slight by retaliating with violence. Even the music they favor glorifies violence.

You have to feel for the law abiding minority that is trying to distance themselves from this crowd. They get painted with the broad brush. Because they look just like the people causing all the chaos and mayhem.
 
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herb749

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Monello said:
The urban sub culture handles every perceived slight by retaliating with violence. Even the music they favor glorify violence.

You have to feel for the law abiding minority that is trying to distance themselves from this crowd. They get painted with the broad brush. Because they look just like the people causing all the chaos and mayhem.
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Fists have been replaced with guns. They believe its easier to shoot someone than take a punch.
 
Grumpy

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herb749 said:
Fists have been replaced with guns. They believe its easier to shoot someone than take a punch.
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Have watched the evolution of this over my lifetime. Fist fights, with a rare occurance of a knife; then knife fights; and now guns are the preferred tool for conflict resolution.
 
Sneakers

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Grumpy said:
Have watched the evolution of this over my lifetime. Fist fights, with a rare occurance of a knife; then knife fights; and now guns are the preferred tool for conflict resolution.
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The real problem is tho.... there may not really be a conflict. There is a perceived wrong-doing which may not be more than a glance, and the retaliation is extreme violence. Gotta protect those street creds.
 
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