Juneteenth is coming up

OccamsRazor

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I just wished they made the holiday sometime in early April to break up the LONG draught between President's Day and Memorial Day.
 

herb749

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I posted this on another thread. Why not switch Black histoty month to June. This day is part of history. Just exchange Pride month.
 

Ken King

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I have no problem with a holiday celebrating the end of slavery in the United States.
I doubt if many have a problem with that, but Juneteenth wasn't the end of slavery. It was a celebration by the slaves of Galveston finally getting the news that "Proclamation 95" declared that slaves within the states that were rebelling against the US were free (notice it only applied to those states in rebellion). Lincoln's proclamation was penned in September of 1862 and set January 1, 1863 as the date on implementation (to be enforced by the Union Army and Navy). Slavery didn't end until the ratification of the 13th Amendment in December of 1865.
 

Bird Dog

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A lot of people are going to die! Not to mention the ones that are just going to get buggered up……also a few children.

Maybe as a way to celebrate, all the thugs could call a cease fire, just like the Germans and Allied forces did at Christmas……just a thought.
 

spr1975wshs

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I have no problem with a holiday celebrating the end of slavery in the United States.

I wish it had a better name.
The trouble is, 19 June 1865 was not the end of slavery in the US.
It is the day that slavery was ended in Texas, the last Confederate state to come under the authority of the Emancipation Proclamation.
Slavery was still legal in Kentucky, Delaware and parts of New Jersey until the 13th Amendment was finally ratified 6 December 1865.
 

vraiblonde

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True. I never notice in years past, but it is so obscenely pushed now.

That's because Democrats are all about trans and don't know the difference between gay and trans (and drag). So they're jamming in a bunch of unrelated cultures into Pride month, which makes it obnoxious.

"See us not being homophobes? Or, uh, transphobes? Or, um, dragphobes? See us not being phobes?? :starcat: "

Juneteenth is a better holiday because it actually commemorates something.
 

Merlin99

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That's because Democrats are all about trans and don't know the difference between gay and trans (and drag). So they're jamming in a bunch of unrelated cultures into Pride month, which makes it obnoxious.

"See us not being homophobes? Or, uh, transphobes? Or, um, dragphobes? See us not being phobes?? :starcat: "

Juneteenth is a better holiday because it actually commemorates something.
I remember the first time I ever saw Juneteenth on a calendar, it was maybe ten years ago. I asked what it was and was told confidently that it was the day that you’d paid your taxes for the year and were now working for yourself. Apparently I was lied too.
 

TPD

the poor dad
Has Pride always had a whole month?
The White House commemorated Juneteenth on June 13, a full six days before the actual date, so now we have Juneteenth WEEK for a holiday few outside Texas had ever heard of prior to George Floyd. This is the same playbook they used with Gay Pride MONTH. It used to be a single day to commemorate the Stonewall Riots, and it morphed into an entire month plus weeks of buildup in May by corporate America and the media. ENOUGH with fake political holidays.

 

SamSpade

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Ok - it's a DAY we celebrate the end of slavery, even though technically - it hadn't ended - or hadn't officially been declared ended - or legally ended as part of the Constitution - or de facto ended, by virtue of it actually eliminated. According to two posters here, it hasn't ended.

That's just the way we celebrate holidays - Columbus landed in the Bahamas on October 12, but he actually never set foot on the continent. So it's not the day he "discovered America" and other people had arrived here first. Independence Day is celebrated on July 4, but the Declaration was signed two days earlier (it was passed through the Continental Congress two days later). But we weren't really independent until we won it by the end of the war. If you ask a New Englander - we became "independent" when we started shooting at them. Of course, we don't celebrate either Washington's birthday or MLK's birthday consistently on their ACTUAL birthdays. And so on.

We choose a day and we go with it. Juneteenth has a tradition going back more than a hundred years. Works for me.

STILL think we could use a better name - Juneteenth sounds ignorant.
 
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