Kerry Got Worse Grades Than Bush!

ylexot

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Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student

Wow :shocking: Kerry finally released his grades from Yale...

WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences.

But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago.

In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year.

Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years.
Gotta love it! :lmao:
 
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tomchamp

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How can that be? They said Bush was so stupid and Kerry was so intelligant!

Kerry " The Poodle" That's what Neal Boortz calls him, because he is just a rich ladies pet! :lmao:
 

HisBoyElroy

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I'm particularly interested in this because many (most) of my leftist friends/family members criticized Bush for his grades during the election.

It was always; "Our C-average president...", "He's so stupid he had a C-average..." bla bla bla.

Gee... I wonder why Kerry didn't want to release these transcripts when he was running. Hmmm...

Oh well... Standing by for the following (cue sad violin music)

- "Grades don't really matter, it's how the person performs"
- "At least he didn't invent a war"
- "Well... Bush didn't.. um.. release his military records" (yes he did)
 

Goofing_Off

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janey83 said:
:confused: I wonder if a C at Yale or Harvard is like an A at a state school.....hmmmm....
No....It's like a C at a state school, except your mommy and daddy are rich enough to send you there.
 

BuddyLee

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janey83 said:
:confused: I wonder if a C at Yale or Harvard is like an A at a state school.....hmmmm....
Irregardless, the congressmen/women and those who run for the office of the presidency should have top scores IMO.

Let me put it this way, would you rather have a doctor who scored a C+ average in school or a doctor who scored A-?
 
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czygvtwkr

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BuddyLee said:
Irregardless, the congressmen/women and those who run for the office of the presidency should have top scores IMO.

Let me put it this way, would you rather have a doctor who scored a C+ average in school or a doctor who scored A-?

An A in a class doesn't necessarly mean a mastery of the course or retention of knowledge. I have gotten A's in classes that I didn't learn a thing in, the one class that I learned the most in I got a C.

As I found out in college there are a few ways to approach things. My first couple years I spent a lot of time doing homework, redoing homework, and preparing myself for the tests, I managed a B+ average. My next two years and throughout graduate school I had a different approach, learn the theory, understand the theory, don't bother doing homework or even study for the test. This approach allowed me to tackle any problem and not just one that I studied how to do before hand, I did next to nothing and I was able to raise my grades to an A- average.

Granted this approach wouldn't have worked in a class where all you do is memorize stuff like history or even biological sciences but it worked great in math and engineering classes. To this day I retain alot more of what I learned in my classes than my coworkers.

Well after that long winded story (sorry) my point is getting good grades isn't necessarly a measure of how smart you are, how hard you work, or even how much you learned, they are an indication but the exceptions to the rule are pretty common.
 

vraiblonde

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BuddyLee said:
Irregardless, the congressmen/women and those who run for the office of the presidency should have top scores IMO.
I'd rather my congressmen have common sense than book smarts. I could give a crap if Roscoe Bartlett got an A in his college English class (or even if he says "irregardless" when he means "regardless" :jet:). I'd rather he get an A in leadership as my Representative.
 

BuddyLee

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vraiblonde said:
I'd rather my congressmen have common sense than book smarts. I could give a crap if Roscoe Bartlett got an A in his college English class (or even if he says "irregardless" when he means "regardless" :jet:). I'd rather he get an A in leadership as my Representative.
I'll be sure to send over the C+ quack when the time comes.:yay: Furthermore, I never recognized that the leaders of this nation have either 1) book smarts or 2) common sense. As leaders of the nation they should have both. JMO.
 
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vraiblonde

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BuddyLee said:
As leaders of the nation they should have both. JMO.
Good luck on that. Because, as we all know, people vote for the guy that looks best on TV.
 

FromTexas

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BuddyLee said:
I'll be sure to send over the C+ quack when the time comes.:yay: Furthermore, I never recognized that the leaders of this nation have either 1) book smarts or 2) common sense. As leaders of the nation they should have both. JMO.

My grades were great... So, I guess we know you will be voting the Texas Pete ticket now.

Grades don't mean a thing once you have been out of school a few years... when you get out of school you will understand that you learn more on the job then any textbook will ever teach you... after all, textbook based education does not reflect the real world environment. :yay:
 

Toxick

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BuddyLee said:
Irregardless, the congressmen/women and those who run for the office of the presidency should have top scores IMO.

Let me put it this way, would you rather have a doctor who scored a C+ average in school or a doctor who scored A-?


I'd rather have the one who doesn't use the word "Irregardless".
 
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czygvtwkr

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FromTexas said:
My grades were great... So, I guess we know you will be voting the Texas Pete ticket now.

Grades don't mean a thing once you have been out of school a few years... when you get out of school you will understand that you learn more on the job then any textbook will ever teach you... after all, textbook based education does not reflect the real world environment. :yay:

Well they are an indicator somewhat....

When I was a graduate teaching assistant it seemed that the grades students received were more dependant on their maturity level than anything. The best students realized that this is their shot to show what they are capable of and the only thing that they can be judged by after 4 years of college.

Anyways anyone that is succesful that has poor grades in school has eventually decided to grow up.

My education was very real world, I actually was part of a team that built a car. It depends on what you go to school for too.
 

Lenny

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BuddyLee said:
Irregardless, the congressmen/women and those who run for the office of the presidency should have top scores IMO.

Let me put it this way, would you rather have a doctor who scored a C+ average in school or a doctor who scored A-?

I believe I'm qualified to answer this having spent a career in pharmacy school, pharmacy practice, medical school, specialty training, sub-specialty training, and 30 years of medical practice. We're all A students to get into med school. We all have to pass the same classes (some are pass-fail so it's rather hard to say who's an A student and who's a C student). In the end, the whole thing is pass-fail.

Personally, I prefer the B+ doctor. The ones who got A's in med school were all azzholes and became professors (those who can, do; those who cannot. . . .)
 

BuddyLee

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Toxick said:
I'd rather have the one who doesn't use the word "Irregardless".
:razz: Same difference. One is just a so-called butcher word in the English language.:twitch:

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.​
 
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