Kingzinger Hot Takes And Opinions

GURPS

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Kinzinger: Children of Trump Supporters Will Be ‘Ashamed’ of Parents


Kinzinger said, “I’ve had a lot of anecdotal people call and say like a good friend said my dad was a super MAGA, he hated Adam and loved Donald Trump. He’s all in against Donald Trump because he believes he’s been lied to. But look, yeah, there may be a certain set of voters that will never pay attention. Their kids will.”

He added, “I’m going to tell you, I truly believe in my heart in five years, maybe not five but definitely ten, you’re not going to be able to find a single person that admits to supporting or voting for Donald Trump in this country because they’re going to be embarrassed because their kids are going to say, ‘You actually supported Donald Trump? Are you kidding me?’ And they’re going to be like, no, no, we didn’t — like trying to find a Nixon supporter a couple of years after he resigned. I got to tell you, your kids, to my fellow Republican congressmen, stand up and speak out, or your kids will be ashamed of having that last name. I’m not saying that to be mean. That’s just a fact.”
 

Hijinx

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He sounds like he is describing himself.
Perhaps it won't take 5 years, but how many Republicans will now say that they voted for Kinzinger?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Trump Derangement Syndrome Looks to Have Hit Adam Kinzinger Particularly Hard






Rep. Kinzinger's TDS was even further on display during his Sunday appearance on ABC News' "This Week," where he claimed "Trump is becoming irrelevant."




Host Jonathan Karl had not even directly asked the congressman about Trump, but rather asked "are you seeing any evidence that what you've uncovered in these hearings is having an impact on your Republican colleagues in the House or on Republican voters generally?"

Karl had given Kinzinger room to pretty much just rant, so his answer also again doubled down on this five year figure.

"What I'm hearing, a lot of anecdotal stuff around the edges of people who have been, you know, hard core with Trump that now just can't stand him. It's enough to make a bit of a difference within maybe a GOP primary, but I think on the bigger term it's denying anywhere near 50 percent of the American voters willing to basically go along with something like the coup on January 6th," he went on to say. "I think though long term, Jonathan, in like five years I still believe that you're -- it's going to be hard to find somebody that will admit they were ever a Trump supporter. And I think that's where this impact comes in, as future history."

Kinzinger didn't just go after the former president, who is very much still relevant in the Republican Party, but Republican leaders in Congress, as well.

With a message particularly for his "Republican friends," he declared that "your leaders by and large have been lying to you. They know stuff that’s very different than what they’re telling you. They know the election wasn’t stolen, but they’re going to send out fundraising requests, they’re going to take your money from you and they’re going to use you to stay in power. You’re being abused," as he went on to claim that he and fellow January 6 select committee member, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), are "not the ones lying to you."
 

SamSpade

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Kinzinger: Children of Trump Supporters Will Be ‘Ashamed’ of Parents


Kinzinger said, “I’ve had a lot of anecdotal people call and say like a good friend said my dad was a super MAGA, he hated Adam and loved Donald Trump. He’s all in against Donald Trump because he believes he’s been lied to. But look, yeah, there may be a certain set of voters that will never pay attention. Their kids will.”

He added, “I’m going to tell you, I truly believe in my heart in five years, maybe not five but definitely ten, you’re not going to be able to find a single person that admits to supporting or voting for Donald Trump in this country because they’re going to be embarrassed because their kids are going to say, ‘You actually supported Donald Trump? Are you kidding me?’ And they’re going to be like, no, no, we didn’t — like trying to find a Nixon supporter a couple of years after he resigned. I got to tell you, your kids, to my fellow Republican congressmen, stand up and speak out, or your kids will be ashamed of having that last name. I’m not saying that to be mean. That’s just a fact.”

I wouldn't say they will feel that way - but my middle girl, who is very bright, is already parroting things she hears at school, and it's all one-sidedly left. Not unlike most teenagers, she believes the BS she hears from her peers over anything her parents tell her - and of course she despises Trump, usually saying all the most basic stuff while backing it up with no facts, incidents - basing it on things he purposedly said (some of them easily shown that were never said with witnesses claiming the same),

What is MORE telling however - is what my oldest says - because he has a cognitive disability. He's 17 but will likely never mature past the age of 8. He VERY OFTEN repeats stuff he hears about Trump - but clearly not spoken in our house. Of course, he has virtually zero ability to reason out the facts and truth, so he is a perfect distillation of what media and the schools teach. He's not even sure what Trump's name is or if he's still President - he just repeats stuff.

Ironically, he doesn't sound a lot UNLIKE more mature persons I know with TDS. They however are without excuse, because they DO possess the ability to reason, but they just let their emotions take over.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Kinzinger Finally Admits Defeat When It Comes to Donald Trump



The hubris and the cluelessness that he thought it would even be a battle, when he joined the Democrats and ignored all the evidence that rebuts his Jan. 6 narrative. Virtually all the 10 Republicans who voted against Trump on impeachment have either quit or lost their primaries.

While he was talking about the “soul of the GOP,” this may also be something of an admission that the Jan. 6 Committee has nothing. Because if they did and he thought they were going to be able to nail Trump on it shortly, he likely wouldn’t be saying that. The Committee also would have thrown it out there already, if they did have something. But so far, they’ve had nothing. That said, they are going to try to throw everything they have–and don’t have–up against the wall in an effort to get Trump before the midterms; they may have the FBI helping them in that effort.

Kinzinger also criticized Democrats for supporting Trump candidates in the primaries, instead of Republicans who voted for impeachment

“When they’re spending donor money to promote these candidates that don’t believe in democracy and then come and tell me ‘Where have all the good Republicans gone?’ that does get a little frustrating, I’ll tell you,” Kinzinger told Bradley.

More evidence of cluelessness. Hey Adam, they don’t care about you, or your fiction that you’re a “good Republican.” They don’t want “good Republicans.” They want all Republicans gone, even the ones who they’ve played like Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI) and you. It’s all about their power and control. They would throw you under the bus in a red hot minute, just like they did Meijer. You’re a “useful idiot” to advance their power grab, and to hurt one of the few people they believe is standing in their way.

If Kinzinger even thought he was consequential in the “fight,” he was sorely mistaken.
 

Hijinx

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Kinzinger and Cheney two nothings.

Chopping off their nose to spite their face.
Now they go home, Once they were well thought of not they are jonah's.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Kinzinger: Pastors Failing, Christians Equating Trump to Jesus


Kinzinger said, “I’ve come to believe over the last year that people, more than even fearing death, we’re such a tribalistic people that they fear being kicked out of their tribe. So, you accept anything because now Republicanism, conservatism, Trumpism becomes your identity, and so, you’re going to stay.”

He continued, “I’m going to say this as a Christian myself, the pastors, many pastors in this country are failing their congregations. Not even just by, you know, pushing a kind of Trumpism from the pulpit, but even refusing to talk about how bad it is, how corrosive it is. You have people today that literally, I think, they might not say it, but in their heart, they equate Donald Trump with a person of Jesus Christ. So to them, if you even come out against this amazing man, Donald Trump, which, I mean, obviously, he is quite flawed, you are coming out against Jesus, against their Christian values. When you go after their religion, that violates the depth of who they are. And I’ve been kicked out of my tribe, and that’s OK.”
 

Hijinx

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Kinzinger: Pastors Failing, Christians Equating Trump to Jesus


Kinzinger said, “I’ve come to believe over the last year that people, more than even fearing death, we’re such a tribalistic people that they fear being kicked out of their tribe. So, you accept anything because now Republicanism, conservatism, Trumpism becomes your identity, and so, you’re going to stay.”

He continued, “I’m going to say this as a Christian myself, the pastors, many pastors in this country are failing their congregations. Not even just by, you know, pushing a kind of Trumpism from the pulpit, but even refusing to talk about how bad it is, how corrosive it is. You have people today that literally, I think, they might not say it, but in their heart, they equate Donald Trump with a person of Jesus Christ. So to them, if you even come out against this amazing man, Donald Trump, which, I mean, obviously, he is quite flawed, you are coming out against Jesus, against their Christian values. When you go after their religion, that violates the depth of who they are. And I’ve been kicked out of my tribe, and that’s OK.”
That guy has totally gone around the bend. Crazy as a toilet rat.
I know a lot of Trump people, but i don't know one of them that would equate Donald Trump with Jesus Christ. Maybe a little bit to Ronald Reagan, but not to Jesus Christ.

The only miracle he ever performed was beating Hillary Clinton and Christ always kept his promises and Trump promised to lock up Hillary and didn't do it. Nevertheless he was an amazing man and if this fool would stop hating on Trump and see that during Trump Presidency he had the border under control, energy independence ,Ukraine was not fighting Russia and China was not threatening us. We weren't paying for gender operations in the military, our economy was rolling up until the democrats and China released Covid among us.
I go to Mass every week and I have never heard my pastor equate Trump with Jesus, but Trump did not try to kill Christianity either. Now we have a man as president and a woman as Speaker who want to murder the unborn. Real Christian those two. I don't know where Kinzinger's and Cheney's hate for Trump cam from , but both of them have allowed hatred to destroy them. Not a very Christian act not a very good thing for someone who claims to be a Christian, and if he does not understand that we were better off in America with Trump he is either got damned stupid or a piss poor American too.
 
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Kinzinger: Children of Trump Supporters Will Be ‘Ashamed’ of Parents


Kinzinger said, “I’ve had a lot of anecdotal people call and say like a good friend said my dad was a super MAGA, he hated Adam and loved Donald Trump. He’s all in against Donald Trump because he believes he’s been lied to. But look, yeah, there may be a certain set of voters that will never pay attention. Their kids will.”

He added, “I’m going to tell you, I truly believe in my heart in five years, maybe not five but definitely ten, you’re not going to be able to find a single person that admits to supporting or voting for Donald Trump in this country because they’re going to be embarrassed because their kids are going to say, ‘You actually supported Donald Trump? Are you kidding me?’ And they’re going to be like, no, no, we didn’t — like trying to find a Nixon supporter a couple of years after he resigned. I got to tell you, your kids, to my fellow Republican congressmen, stand up and speak out, or your kids will be ashamed of having that last name. I’m not saying that to be mean. That’s just a fact.”
Having voted for Trump twice - reluctantly the first time, having stood in line for 3+ hours the second - I know and interact with a TON of Trump supporters. Probably a crap ton; maybe even a sh*t ton.

I don't know a single one who doesn't feel the same way: "don't love him; love the policies, love the results." We really are MAGA people, not Trump followers.

So, I'm trying to say that, like every single thing that comes out of the demonrat's cake holes (euphemism) that they accuse the right of being or doing, it's projection. How they think, and more importantly, how they feel, is how they believe everyone thinks and feels. They worshipped the Won, so they believe conservatives worship Trump. They cannot fathom anything else.

Racism, hatred, bigotry, discrimination, sexism, cult of personality...hell, we could make a list a mile long, and it all boils down to the fact that what they accuse conservatives of is an inherent, integral part of their own natures. If you could excise those parts of them, they'd implode. Or at least collapse like letting the air out of a balloon. Removing the "isms" and the "ists" from a lefty's id, if one could do that, would cause them to cease to exist. That's why logic, reason, demonstrable facts don't work on them. Their egos are so puffed up with the "isms" and the "ists" that it's like shoveling sand against the rising tide.

In fact, speaking of facts, demonstrable facts have the opposite affect on the left than they do on conservatives. Example: lowest unemployment rate ever for AAs, and not because of long-term unemployment removing them from statistical analysis. No, highest employment figures ever removes blacks (and others traditionally considered an immutable part of the Demonrat base); removes their dependency on them; removes the hold Demonrats have over them. The Demonrat pol response is always the same: they lay on the floor, kick their feet, ball their little fists up, and have epic meltdowns. Then they commit to doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to re-consolidate their power, to bring those traitorous pets back onto their plantation, even if it means destroying this country.

That doesn't make any sense to conservatives; we don't think that way. Hell, we may not even be constitutionally capable of thinking that way. Hell, we don't even decimate our enemies in war (except as a last resort), let alone peacetime. Never forget:

"An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." - Sun Tzu​

 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
That doesn't make any sense to conservatives; we don't think that way. Hell, we may not even be constitutionally capable of thinking that way. Hell, we don't even decimate our enemies in war (except as a last resort), let alone peacetime. Never forget:

"An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." - Sun Tzu​

Sounds like Democrats "Mission Statement"
 

SamSpade

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Having voted for Trump twice - reluctantly the first time, having stood in line for 3+ hours the second - I know and interact with a TON of Trump supporters. Probably a crap ton; maybe even a sh*t ton.

I don't know a single one who doesn't feel the same way: "don't love him; love the policies, love the results." We really are MAGA people, not Trump followers.
Your experience is 100% identical with mine - and corresponds to my opinion. I am not sure I would ever like him in person. But he gets the job done and doesn't play word games or be all diplomatic while NOT doing it.

And you're right - they did worship the one. Wrote songs about him. Named schools after him. Gave him the damned Nobel for stuff he "was GONNA do". Reporters got the vapors and women fainted. Someone got a "tingle" up his leg. YES they worshipped him.

We don't worship Trump. We like him. That's about as far as it goes.
 

Hijinx

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Your experience is 100% identical with mine - and corresponds to my opinion. I am not sure I would ever like him in person. But he gets the job done and doesn't play word games or be all diplomatic while NOT doing it.

And you're right - they did worship the one. Wrote songs about him. Named schools after him. Gave him the damned Nobel for stuff he "was GONNA do". Reporters got the vapors and women fainted. Someone got a "tingle" up his leg. YES they worshipped him.

We don't worship Trump. We like him. That's about as far as it goes.
I don't even know if I like him. I don't know him.
But he got the job done, and he did it with damned little help.

Love him or hate him his successes cannot be denied.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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It Looks Like Adam Kinzinger Has Finally Bitten off More Than He Can Chew



On Sunday, “X Strategies, LLC” CEO Alex Bruesewitz, a private citizen, had the nerve to criticize Kinzinger on Twitter over his “un-American” accusation toward millions of Americans, calling him out for his double standards in the process.

“You praised Joe Biden for calling 75 Million Americans ‘enemies of the state’ but you’re angry that Trump criticized the corrupt & completely weaponized FBI & DOJ? Adam Kinzinger, you have issues man,” Bruesewitz wrote.

True to form, Kinzinger, who has weaponized his membership on the January 6 Select House Committee in order to target his political opponents, did not respond to the accusation (probably because he knows it’s true). Instead, he tried to change the subject by accusing Bruesewitz of committing fraud against the U.S. government.

“Alex did you pay back your PPP loan despite having no employees?” Kinzinger responded.

In a follow-up tweet, Kinzinger pretended to have “the receipts”:





 
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