Lake Lariat in CRE

MMDad

Lem Putt
oh you are a sceam, Becky. :bigwhoop:

As much as it seems to be a huge joke to you, the rest of us happens to really miss swimming and fishing in the lake and are also VERY saddened to see what the lake has become (extremely sick and dying). We take that VERY seriously , my dear.

:coffee:
You're allowing your negativity to read something into her post that isn't there. Her point is actually very valid. If the algae could be harvested, that might remove the excess nutrients from the lake. Proceeds from that harvest might even make enough $$$ to pay for cleaning up the lake. Wouldn't it be great if this whole problem could be fixed without costing us another dime?
 

baydoll

New Member
You're allowing your negativity to read something into her post that isn't there. Her point is actually very valid. If the algae could be harvested, that might remove the excess nutrients from the lake. Proceeds from that harvest might even make enough $$$ to pay for cleaning up the lake. Wouldn't it be great if this whole problem could be fixed without costing us another dime?
That's all well and good, MMdad except for the fact that if it wasn't for some of us who you all label whiners and criers 'prodding' Becky to actually do something about the lake nothing would get done.

And as of today, there has been no sign posted at the lake advising people about the situation there.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
And as of today, there has been no sign posted at the lake advising people about the situation there.
So go put up a sign. Stop whining and actually do something.

You people who think you are accomplishing something by complaining are less than useful. If you aren't willing to actually stand up and take action you are nothing but a malcontent.
 
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residentofcre

Guest
I was indeed attempting to make the best of a very sad situation.

For those of you who don't know my background [before SOMD] I was a very vocal opponent of the Water Company because of an arsenic problem. I was viciously attacked in public and in print because I called for the clean up of the Arsenic. The amounts found in the water were not as harmful to adults as to children and there were some on the Board of the Water Company that absolutely took my comments as bashing. When the regulations changed and the amount of Arsenic in the water were deemed to be a hazard, the Water Company took very wise corrective action.... but there are several on the Water Company Board that bash me to this day because of this.

The Water Company is also involved [although very indirectly] in this Lake problem. The CEO of the Water Company is also involved in the Lake Lariet Clam Project. There was some talk [although I don't know it to be fact and do not presume to say it is] that the clams are the cause of the Algae Bloom. I have been watching this at arms length for some time. I did not want my previous dealings to sway the work one way or another.

Now that we have the testing perameters in place, and the toxicity can be measured on an established scale, I am looking to the Lake Preservation Committee [and their consultants] to find a safe solution.

At one point everyone was calling for aeration [bubbling] but it turns out we were wise not to go that route because it might have spread the algae even faster. Another solution offered was algacide [sorry about my spelling] but it turns out that if we had jumped on that band wagon, it would have slammed the lake with more toxic chemicals that could not be removed or seen.

There are a couple of options open now that the Lake Preservation Committee is looking into. One is the use of Barley Straw. This is supposed to kill the algae bloom but we don't know at this point if that would cause a bigger toxic problem. The other is harvesting it.

There is also some research into creating what are called rain forrests on the CRE property around the Lake to clean the water going into the lake. This would remove the nutrients the algae bloom require. As a matter of fact, there is some research going on which will allow corporate sponsors to install the rain forrests for us at no charge.... saving us millions of dollars.

I am by no means responsible for all the research that is being done. I am only telling you what I have heard. I am not a scientist and most of what they say is over my head and I have to keep telling them to put it in laymans terms.

The problem our lake is now suffering is not unique. It turns out that this is a growing problem in lakes all over the world. Australia and the US seem to have the highest testing standards [most rigid]. But like I said before, Maryland has not addressed this issue yet. We are working with the scientists in the area that are working on this ground breaking work. Florida seems to have the most rigid standards on this at this time. We decided to use their guidelines. At this time, our lake seems to fall withing the warning stages.

If we can harvest this bloom [as Pennsylvania does] then we might be able to have a clean lake at little or no charge.

My prayer is that our bloom does not grow into a money making venture. If we can get rid of it quickly, permanently, at little or no charge WITHOUT HARMING OUR CHILDREN, then my prayers will be answered.

I sincerely apologize if anyone thinks I am poking fun. I am only trying to make the best of a sad situation. :coffee:
 

LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
That's all well and good, MMdad except for the fact that if it wasn't for some of us who you all label whiners and criers 'prodding' Becky to actually do something about the lake nothing would get done.
And as of today, there has been no sign posted at the lake advising people about the situation there.
So if you want to see something get done get off your ass and do something. Why do you need to prod Becky? Are you incapable?
 

baydoll

New Member
So go put up a sign. Stop whining and actually do something.

You people who think you are accomplishing something by complaining are less than useful. If you aren't willing to actually stand up and take action you are nothing but a malcontent.
Well DUH dude. What the heck do you think we are trying to do?

Go over and read the POACRE site and see what's been going on instead of labeling those of us who are TRYING TO GET ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS as whiners.

Gosh but this is frustrating.
 
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residentofcre

Guest
It turns out that warning signs were posted.... but they were destroyed, almost immediately, by some of the occupants at the beach.

The GM is currently working on making better signage, that cannot be torn down so quickly.

There is so much more to this than we can possibly tell you. Like I said, the news changes almost by the hour because this is an ongoing, immediate, urgent, problem we are working on.

I could tell you right now that we are making signboards of plywood and plexi-glass and the GM might be finding a better solution that would allow for a quicker and more permanent sign. That's how quick this is working. I mean to tell you there is a team of over a dozen people plus the Board and all the staff working on this... and the Lake Preservation Committee has been working on this since last year. The news changes by the hour. This is an extremely fluid situation [pardon the pun] :coffee:
 
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amotley

Guest
ok when i started looking at homes 2 years ago while in the stages of wanting to move back to maryland, i was set on calvert i did my research on the schools and that was it, i didnt care what the neighborhoods were like i have family around calvert i visited all the time. i did like cre because of everything it had to offer. but my first home was in saint leonard, i liked it there but the landlord wanted to put the house on the market for whatever reason(and what a shock after almost 7 months its still there imagine paying two mortages lol). so in november i started looking again and ended up here in cre. until just recently i wondered why the beach at lariat was always closed. im not one to speak out on issues but if its something that can make my kids sick i want to know. my street backs up to a part of lariat i just fell that cre needs to keep us all up on what is happening in our backyards. is it one persons job NO thanks for keeping us updated i probably wont use the lake and i have made sure my family know only catch and release from the lake cause they do fish there. i dont think someone needs to have their heads cut off for keeping us updated she didnt cause the problem she is trying to let us know whats going on, thanks and i agree with the ones that are saying stop whining and itching if you feel that strong get up and do something more than that! just mho>> getting off my soapbox now i need to get ready for work lol have a great day!
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
It turns out that warning signs were posted.... but they were destroyed, almost immediately, by some of the occupants at the beach.

The GM is currently working on making better signage, that cannot be torn down so quickly.

There is so much more to this than we can possibly tell you. Like I said, the news changes almost by the hour because this is an ongoing, immediate, urgent, problem we are working on.

I could tell you right now that we are making signboards of plywood and plexi-glass and the GM might be finding a better solution that would allow for a quicker and more permanent sign. That's how quick this is working. I mean to tell you there is a team of over a dozen people plus the Board and all the staff working on this... and the Lake Preservation Committee has been working on this since last year. The news changes by the hour. This is an extremely fluid situation [pardon the pun] :coffee:
If it's been determined it's harmful to swim in the lake, why not just lock the gate? Why not pass out flyers as you enter through the gate?
 

tommyjones

New Member
So go put up a sign. Stop whining and actually do something.

You people who think you are accomplishing something by complaining are less than useful. If you aren't willing to actually stand up and take action you are nothing but a malcontent.
and what are you doing other than whine about people whining?


I personally have taken action, as have many other concerned members. the letters to the editor in the local papers are evidence of that. We are at least getting the word out. If we hadn't, NO NOTICE of the up coming elections and need for nominees would have been given.

as for the algae, I live on the lake (there are tons of houses on directly on the lake), I dont go to the lake beach. I feel it is the responsibility of the POACRE to notify the members when the HEALTH DEPARTMENT tells the association that the lake is not safe for swimming.
 
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amotley

Guest
i know everyone thinks it should be handled differently but if everyone could set one common objective to work on and work together it would make it easier. everyone wants the lake to be great so agree to work on that. one part does this, one part does that, meet in the middle and it will get done. i know thats in a perfect world, but if your not out doing things that need to be done stop getting on the ones that seem to be trying.
 

exnodak

New Member
I was indeed attempting to make the best of a very sad situation.

For those of you who don't know my background [before SOMD] I was a very vocal opponent of the Water Company because of an arsenic problem. I was viciously attacked in public and in print because I called for the clean up of the Arsenic. The amounts found in the water were not as harmful to adults as to children and there were some on the Board of the Water Company that absolutely took my comments as bashing. When the regulations changed and the amount of Arsenic in the water were deemed to be a hazard, the Water Company took very wise corrective action.... but there are several on the Water Company Board that bash me to this day because of this.

The Water Company is also involved [although very indirectly] in this Lake problem. The CEO of the Water Company is also involved in the Lake Lariet Clam Project. There was some talk [although I don't know it to be fact and do not presume to say it is] that the clams are the cause of the Algae Bloom. I have been watching this at arms length for some time. I did not want my previous dealings to sway the work one way or another.

Now that we have the testing perameters in place, and the toxicity can be measured on an established scale, I am looking to the Lake Preservation Committee [and their consultants] to find a safe solution.

At one point everyone was calling for aeration [bubbling] but it turns out we were wise not to go that route because it might have spread the algae even faster. Another solution offered was algacide [sorry about my spelling] but it turns out that if we had jumped on that band wagon, it would have slammed the lake with more toxic chemicals that could not be removed or seen.

There are a couple of options open now that the Lake Preservation Committee is looking into. One is the use of Barley Straw. This is supposed to kill the algae bloom but we don't know at this point if that would cause a bigger toxic problem. The other is harvesting it.

There is also some research into creating what are called rain forrests on the CRE property around the Lake to clean the water going into the lake. This would remove the nutrients the algae bloom require. As a matter of fact, there is some research going on which will allow corporate sponsors to install the rain forrests for us at no charge.... saving us millions of dollars.

I am by no means responsible for all the research that is being done. I am only telling you what I have heard. I am not a scientist and most of what they say is over my head and I have to keep telling them to put it in laymans terms.

The problem our lake is now suffering is not unique. It turns out that this is a growing problem in lakes all over the world. Australia and the US seem to have the highest testing standards [most rigid]. But like I said before, Maryland has not addressed this issue yet. We are working with the scientists in the area that are working on this ground breaking work. Florida seems to have the most rigid standards on this at this time. We decided to use their guidelines. At this time, our lake seems to fall withing the warning stages.

If we can harvest this bloom [as Pennsylvania does] then we might be able to have a clean lake at little or no charge.

My prayer is that our bloom does not grow into a money making venture. If we can get rid of it quickly, permanently, at little or no charge WITHOUT HARMING OUR CHILDREN, then my prayers will be answered.

I sincerely apologize if anyone thinks I am poking fun. I am only trying to make the best of a sad situation. :coffee:
This is a good example of Becky running hard to try and get to the front of the parade. The Water Company (CRWC) had already solved the matter of the arsenic well before she made it her political tool to get attention in her bid for County Commission. It served her mentor, Linda Kelley well in causing grief for CRWC in its attempt to stop the County from it ridiculous expansion of water in Lusby Town Center which now threatens the water supply of the entire area and cost the County million in unnecessary expansion. She went about making false and misleading statements about the Water Company, members of its Board, its management and especially the quality of the drinking water provided by CRWC.

Some of the dirtiest, libelous, slanderous politicking I've ever seen. Her politics have contributed to costing this community millions of dollars in potential infrastructure revenues. Not to mention a stupid, dead in the water business park and a state owned golf course that is polluting our lake.

Yes the Water Company does support the Clam Project. No, the clam project is not responsible for the algae bloom. Excess nutrients and bad maintenance of the Lake are to blame. The clam project benefits the lake by consuming other dangerous things like cryptosporidium and e-coli. Clams don't consume toxic algae.

I've tried to be polite to this point, but some times polite just doesn't cut it.

Not aerating the Lake because it may have made things worse is the stupidest thing I've heard yet coming from the Lake Committee. Aeration is accepted by EVERY handler of this algae as the FIRST PRESCRIBED method of treatment. Lake Lariat is no different in that respect. Bubblers, sprayers, anything that will pump oxygen into the water was needed LAST YEAR. It may already be too late. It may be that they sat around studying the matter to the point where the only thing that can be done is draining and dredging.

And, in life and leadership it is always better to do ANYTHING even if its wrong. Doing nothing is NEVER an option.

For Becky, I guess what goes around comes around.
 
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residentofcre

Guest
This is a good example of Becky running hard to try and get to the front of the parade. The Water Company (CRWC) had already solved the matter of the arsenic well before she made it her political tool to get attention in her bid for County Commission. It served her mentor, Linda Kelley well in causing grief for CRWC in its attempt to stop the County from it ridiculous expansion of water in Lusby Town Center which now threatens the water supply of the entire area and cost the County million in unnecessary expansion. She went about making false and misleading statements about the Water Company, members of its Board, its management and especially the quality of the drinking water provided by CRWC.

Some of the dirtiest, libelous, slanderous politicking I've ever seen. Her politics have contributed to costing this community millions of dollars in potential infrastructure revenues. Not to mention a stupid, dead in the water business park and a state owned golf course that is polluting our lake.

Yes the Water Company does support the Clam Project. No, the clam project is not responsible for the algae bloom. Excess nutrients and bad maintenance of the Lake are to blame. The clam project benefits the lake by consuming other dangerous things like cryptosporidium and e-coli. Clams don't consume toxic algae.

I've tried to be polite to this point, but some times polite just doesn't cut it.

Not aerating the Lake because it may have made things worse is the stupidest thing I've heard yet coming from the Lake Committee. Aeration is accepted by EVERY handler of this algae as the FIRST PRESCRIBED method of treatment. Lake Lariat is no different in that respect. Bubblers, sprayers, anything that will pump oxygen into the water was needed LAST YEAR. It may already be too late. It may be that they sat around studying the matter to the point where the only thing that can be done is draining and dredging.

And, in life and leadership it is always better to do ANYTHING even if its wrong. Doing nothing is NEVER an option.

For Becky, I guess what goes around comes around.
Well, like I said... there are people at the Water Company that still don't like me.... :gossip:

I must say tho... the idea the water company came up with to mix the water from the Arsenic Well with the others was beyond brilliant and it saved us all a ton of money. If I haven't said it lately, I'll say it again... good job Water Company... just wish you had done it sooner and could just get over your hate for what I did. I totally understand it tho.... :smoochy:

Oh... and most of what you wrote was about Linda Kelley not me... but ok fine....:gossip:

About the Clam Project... part of the reason I have not been speaking out is because we absolutely have had some things that were brought up that turned out to be not so good information. I am saying that the Clams were blamed but I don't know if they are at fault.... One good thing about the Clam Project is that it is a volunteer project, the people are very nice, and they are really working hard.... that deserves a pat on the back... but because of the association with the Water Company... I did not get so involved with them or the Lake Preservation Committee because I didn't want my involvement to cause the kind of outburst I got here.... It's ok... just saying...:gossip:
 

Jbeckman

New Member
It turns out that warning signs were posted.... but they were destroyed, almost immediately, by some of the occupants at the beach.

The GM is currently working on making better signage, that cannot be torn down so quickly.

There is so much more to this than we can possibly tell you. Like I said, the news changes almost by the hour because this is an ongoing, immediate, urgent, problem we are working on.

I could tell you right now that we are making signboards of plywood and plexi-glass and the GM might be finding a better solution that would allow for a quicker and more permanent sign. That's how quick this is working. I mean to tell you there is a team of over a dozen people plus the Board and all the staff working on this... and the Lake Preservation Committee has been working on this since last year. The news changes by the hour. This is an extremely fluid situation [pardon the pun] :coffee:

Are you speaking of the signs the HD had previously posted?
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
and what are you doing other than whine about people whining?


I personally have taken action, as have many other concerned members. the letters to the editor in the local papers are evidence of that. We are at least getting the word out. If we hadn't, NO NOTICE of the up coming elections and need for nominees would have been given.

as for the algae, I live on the lake (there are tons of houses on directly on the lake), I dont go to the lake beach. I feel it is the responsibility of the POACRE to notify the members when the HEALTH DEPARTMENT tells the association that the lake is not safe for swimming.
Apparently you've gotten the word about the issue so there must have been some communication, this is just another stick that you could use to beat someone with. Your idea of taking action is to belittle the people who've ran for a position, who've tried to make a change. Their idea of taking action has been to actually look into the problem, to see what could be done. Whose actions do you think are going to be beneficial in the long run?
 
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