Law and Order.

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
Toxick said:
And what is it that you think you're right about?
Maybe it was meant to be a "fill in the blank". Let's see what we can come up with... :evil:
 
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residentofcre

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hvp05 said:
This was brought up some time ago; Ken posted the current restrictions.

But, to actually answer the question: they (politicians) are held to the standard the people demand. Voters will get the official they deserve. If JPC were to be elected - with everyone fully aware of his past - and he creates disarray then it's sad but he did get there thanks to votes.

Of course, not everyone who was, say, a vandal 20 years ago is still a fathead loser like JPC. So how would you distinguish those who have reformed from those who have not, Becky?
Maybe we should be asking "what have you done for me lately?"

If they have been sitting on a sofa for the past couple of years on a regular basis, usually watching tv with cracker dust all down their dirty shirt, maybe we need to look elsewhere for someone who deserves the vote.

On the other hand, if they've been studying the issue, developed a plan, or they have proof of some kind of recent activitism, a second look may be in order.
 

hvp05

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residentofcre said:
If they have been sitting on a sofa for the past couple of years on a regular basis, usually watching tv with cracker dust all down their dirty shirt, maybe we need to look elsewhere for someone who deserves the vote.
If that should be the case, the "candidate" would probably not have enough funding - an issue about which you have become very aware - or gumption to propose a real challenge anyhow.

People will believe all sorts of crap, but I think when someone as obviously ridiculous as your example candidate or JPC comes along, the far majority of voters will realize that candidate does not deserve power.
 
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residentofcre

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hvp05 said:
If that should be the case, the "candidate" would probably not have enough funding - an issue about which you have become very aware - or gumption to propose a real challenge anyhow.

People will believe all sorts of crap, but I think when someone as obviously ridiculous as your example candidate or JPC comes along, the far majority of voters will realize that candidate does not deserve power.

If we were to apply the "what have you done for me lately" theory another way... we could look at what the candidate has done to make life better for us.

Recently somone said they wouldn't even take my business card because I stood up against the local water company and asked them not to wait until the new EPA regulations went into affect to come up with a plan to lower the arsenic levels in the water. All I asked for was a plan.

For a second or two I worried about this affecting my campaign. Then I realized that not only did the local water company fail do as I asked, but the local government didn't do anything to assist me either.

So even tho this person [who obviously was happy with arsenic laced water because it looked, smelled, and tasted clear] was upset with me for standing up against his local water company, I realized that the fact that he could be so angry with me meant an impact had been made.

Even tho I was not on the local government access channel I made an impact.
 
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BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
Does anybody have any goggles I can borrow for the debate? I have a feeling a lot of forum people will be spitting stuff if there are liquids available. TIA
 
J

JPC, Sr.

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vraiblonde said:
You're wrong.
:war: I stand by what I have posted.

:lalala: I really do understand and sympathize with "V's" opinion quoted above and many others believe as she does too and this scenerio is what is meant by the law betraying the people's trust.

When I first went to the SMC Court for child support then I was trusting the law too and I expected things to work out fine, but instead I got cheated and mistreated, got robbed and pillaged, lost my job, lost my apartment, lost my car, thrown into jail and all this because of the unjust child support, and then released from jail destitute and homeless in winter expecting to freeze to death and in January 97, I then first spray painted the SMC Circuit Court House in defiance of my child support abusers.
vrailblonde said:
They [the parents] are there because they WILL NOT pay their obligation to their child.

There's a huge difference between "can not" and "will not".
:coffee: There is a big difference between parents that will not pay the unjust child support and the parents that can not pay the unjust demands of child support, so I do agree, but "V" is saying she knows as clearly as she can read their minds to know what those parents will and will not do, but for me I only wish it were true, and I might pray for that great day when separated parents would actually go to jail for refusing to pay that unjust child support but my prayers have not been answered yet. If that were true that parents "will not" pay the thievery then I would be so very proud of those parents that I would sing their praises all over the USA - I would be on the rooftops bragging about my noble bretheren in jail for direct willfull defiance of the child support thievery - but no. If only V's mind reading were true and then in that day I will thank God but it is not true at all.

The parents in jail for c/s are truly deadbroke and those damned fool parents still trust this horrible unjust child support system even when it screws each of them over and over again. Those pitiful irritating parents in jail would pay the child support if they could pay it and that is the one true thing that I hate about every one of those damned ignorant parents in the jails for c/s.

The law wants the separated parents to get up and pay the child support thievery while I want the parents to get up and fight the child support thievery and instead they do nothing but accept whatever crap is thrown at them and wait for some mystical salvation - like maybe hitting the lottery.

It is a horrid scenerio of our gov playing the bully and picking on the little drips that will not defend themselves and the bully rips them off and pushes them around and the twerps will not fight back and it goes on and on and on and I do not like it at all.

The separated parents in jail are not like me because I have faith, they are just another different set of sheep that have no self esteem and no will power and like pitiful sheep they turn and run in what ever way the masters direct, so the parents in jail would pay the unjust child support thievery if they could, even when they are each dead-broke and being screwed, it is purely pitiful.
:banghead: ............. :whack:
 
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JPC, Sr.

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somd whisper said:
To tell me that there are no homeless children or children that are living at poverty level is crazy. You show me the stats on that.

Why is it the custodials parents fault?
:whistle: It is ONLY the custodial's fault if the children are homeless because the custodial only needs to ask for assistance from any of many sourses like Church or Social Services so if they are homeless or hungry or need health care or lacking any real need then it is the custodials fault.
somd whisper said:
Maybe if you could have some of your supporters come in here and explain to me in their own words why they support you I would get a clearer picture, you do after all have others supporting you and shouldn’t they be in here doing just that supporting you?
:coffee: I do not need others to support me here, I stand alone proudly, other people can say "Cusick is a retard" then vote in secret in 29b for Cusick and I will fight the battle all alone (if need be) and I can take any heat from this degenerate system. It is a weak person that needs others in order to be right.
somd whisper said:
:popcorn: This link shows children alone and runaway children without a parent, and that means the custodial has done some thing wrong or the children are separated from the custodials for some reason, plus it shows a big group that provides all the children's needs for free. This group is helping children that are separated from the custodials.
somd whisper said:
:yay: Here on this link is homeless children but they can not be homeless if the custodials were taking true care of these children. Homeless children mean the custodials have neglected or abused these children.
somd whisper said:
:bigwhoop: This link is written by the parenting police and it is not true, except maybe for rich families, but poor families that pay or owe child support most only pay less then $100. per week and that is $5,200. per year so it is not taking any child out of poverty. But if Donald Trump stops paying his child support then his children would become poor (maybe) but then the parenting police can collect the rich person's money easily, so it never happens to the rich, as only poor and low income parents go to jail. So in this link the parenting police have painted a false picture to justify their unjust child support collections.
somd whisper said:
somd whisper said:
:lalala:These link show that we need fathers (both parents) with full contact and involvement with their own children and I agree completely. But the law only demands that unjust child support be paid and then the law further divides the families by putting the separated parents into jail and by promoting the slanderous name calling of "deadbeat" against the saparated parents when in reality the children need their own parents and do not need the unjust child support at all. The system is backwards and it hurts families.
:wench:
 
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Ponytail said:
JPC, I'm curious, How many of them are in there because their ex-wives/girlfriends or whatever "masterminded" the plan for them to be in there. :whistle:
:flowers: I do know that a lot of separated parents say that stuff too but I consider it to be meaningless. It is the child support system that gives the custodials the ability to abuse their children's other separated parents and so the system is the force in the evil.
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JPC, Sr.

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residentofcre said:
That might be a very interesting study. Should we allow those who have cost the State of the County money due to vanadalism, vangrancy, or other degrees of crimes to run for public office?

Shouldn't there be a higher standard?

Just asking.... to get this law and order thread headed in a different way...

Should those who would be responsible for writing and passing our laws be held to a higher standard?
:popcorn: George Washington and all our founding fathers and founding mothers took up open rebellion and guns to fight against the law that was abusing them. There is the highest standard of them all, or close to it.

I myslf am non violent and I see that as a higher calling then using violence but I still understand and agree with the methods of George Washington.
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JPC, Sr.

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Bustem' Down said:
You know your fighting a losing battle. It won't change. There isn't popular support for it to change.
:patriot: Right makes might - this I believe. :howdy:
 
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JPC, Sr.

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PrepH4U said:
What about the families still living in tents from Katrina? :shrug: Who's fault is that? There are many families homeless in the United States you really need to do some research before you spew your babble! You say you always back up your statements with links, would you provide the links to back up your statement please. :whistle:
:jameo: Hurricane Katrina has nothing to do with the unjust child support. If families are homeless because of a hurricane then child support would not make any difference paid or not. Let us stick to the subject here.
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MMDad

Lem Putt
JPC said:
:patriot: Right makes might - this I believe. :howdy:
:yay: And that right there is why you are such a pathetic little man. Because, by your logic, being wrong makes you weak.

How much weaker could you be than to rely on others to support you because you choose not to? Putting children on welfare or relying on charities is the ultimate weakness, and by your logic wrong.

For once you have proven a point. Parents not paying child support makes their children weak, and is therefore wrong.

Parents who pay child support make their children strong, which is right.
 
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JPC, Sr.

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Bustem' Down said:
But right is an opinion, and majority rule.
:jameo: No, right and wrong are not opinions. Right will always triumph over wrong, but sometimes it takes a little while to do it, and there is that irony of letting the wrong win so then it wallows in the filth of their own wrong.
Bustim' Down said:
and majority rule.
:banghead: If the majority vote ever comes to mean righteous rule then we are then truly doomed to bloodshed.

Can people vote for abortion or against abortion in order to make it right or wrong? - NO.

Can people vote on going to war with any other Country and then majority rule makes it right or wrong? - NO, No, no.

The Bill of Rights in the U.S. Constitution was specifically put there to protect the minority and the individuals from the power of the majority.

And Jesus went to the cross by majority opinion. :bawl:
 
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