Layoffs begin for tens of thousands of federal workers

[BOP]

"From the Department of Education to Health and Human Services to Veterans Affairs, workers were laid off across at least a dozen federal departments and agencies by order of the Trump administration."

Or are they?

 

[BOP]

This sure looks like the pattern that follows the "more feds/fewer contractors - fewer feds/more contractors" cycle that comes around every 4 or more years, give or take.

 

[WingsOfGold]

 

[vraiblonde]

Let the DC downsizing begin.

There's a bill in Congress to make DC a ward of the country like it's supposed to be and not have Mayors and City Councils to steal all the money and go get drunk. That's another thing Democrats have let get out of control.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I wonder how long those "laid off" will continue to get paid for, right now they are getting paid leave.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Let the DC downsizing begin.

There's a bill in Congress to make DC a ward of the country like it's supposed to be and not have Mayors and City Councils to steal all the money and go get drunk. That's another thing Democrats have let get out of control.

It already is. It is called the Federal District of Washington, which is under federal control and oversight, as the area, the area currently, was ceded to federal control by Maryland. Congress allowed the locals to govern the area, in part, to not have to do it themselves, and to appease the population of DC residents who wanted some form of autonomy.

Such a bill would just return full control back to Congress.

 

[Hijinx]

I suppose it is who's ox is being gored.
Biden laid of the pipeline workers, the workers putting up the wall, the workers at the coal fired power plants, the workers at America's car and tractor plants, when they made moves to Mexico,
Trump lays off the surplus government workers.

 

[vraiblonde]

Trump lays off the surplus government workers.

In every dystopian future novel I've ever read everyone works for the government because 1) there is no private industry anymore; and 2) they can control the populace. Everything belongs to the government.

Now, these are best sellers and books they made us read in Jr. High and High School, so I know I'm not the only one who's ever read them and then looks at our current situation...."Hey....wait a minute.... "

 

[Kyle]

In every dystopian future novel I've ever read everyone works for the government because 1) there is no private industry anymore; and 2) they can control the populace. Everything belongs to the government.

Now, these are best sellers and books they made us read in Jr. High and High School, so I know I'm not the only one who's ever read them and then looks at our current situation...."Hey....wait a minute.... "

Except for the last two generations.

From conversation conversations, I’ve had I’m pretty sure millennials and Gen Z never read those books.

Their literature class gave them such classics as “Tommy Has Two Daddy’s” and ”Life as a Teenage Mutant Ninja Trans-Furry.”

 

[Clem72]

In every dystopian future novel I've ever read everyone works for the government because 1) there is no private industry anymore; and 2) they can control the populace. Everything belongs to the government.

Now, these are best sellers and books they made us read in Jr. High and High School, so I know I'm not the only one who's ever read them and then looks at our current situation...."Hey....wait a minute.... "

Just going to point out that Dystopian fiction as a genre is literally defined by having totalitarian forms of government. I wouldn't say that requires most people to "work for the government", in most of those stories but rather "the government controls all people and all forms of work". And of course any interesting story line is going to center around someone that is part of the system or fighting the system.

I.E. the Hunger games (for a more modern version). The story would be less interesting if it just focused on the subsistence farmers and villagers who weren't volunteered to go to the games even though they likely make up most of the people in that society.

So that's like saying "In every Disney cartoon I ever watched there's a young woman who sings to animals".

In real life not every young lady sings to animals and finds a prince, and working for the government doesn't result in totalitarianism/Dystopia.

 

[gemma_rae]

For your consideration ...





It already is. It is called the Federal District of Washington, which is under federal control and oversight, as the area, the area currently, was ceded to federal control by Maryland. Congress allowed the locals to govern the area, in part, to not have to do it themselves, and to appease the population of DC residents who wanted some form of autonomy.

Such a bill would just return full control back to Congress.

Home Rule.

This is why I laugh every time some demotard talks about statehood. The land would go back to Maryland, and Maryland doesn't want it if it has to absorb the financial burden.

 

[vraiblonde]

working for the government doesn't result in totalitarianism/Dystopia.

And yet it does. Government workers are terrified of....the government being audited. Because it will expose waste, fraud, and corruption in many government agencies, and the people who work for those agencies are part of that waste, fraud, and corruption, and many will lose their jobs. So they want to protect themselves at the expense of the rest of us. And you certainly can't blame them for that.

The more government workers you have, the more people who are going to want to protect and hide any shenanigans. If everyone works for the government, there will be zero accountability because everyone will be a wage slave who will have no reason to care about millions of dollars going for "Guatemalan sex changes" (when that money is actually going in the pocket of the elites and not to Guatemala at all).

In the dig the Musk people are finding millions spent on....programs that don't even exist. And millions sent to countries for projects that never even got started. So we know damn well where that money really went. And if everyone works for the government, there will be two classes in this country: the elite overlords and the working poor who have no hope of achieving anything else.

We've seen how that works out in other countries.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

And yet it does. Government workers are terrified of....the government being audited. Because it will expose waste, fraud, and corruption in many government agencies, and the people who work for those agencies are part of that waste, fraud, and corruption, and many will lose their jobs. So they want to protect themselves at the expense of the rest of us. And you certainly can't blame them for that.

You spelled, grift, incorrectly. Twice.

 

[GURPS]

 

[GURPS]

In every dystopian future novel I've ever read everyone works for the government because 1) there is no private industry anymore; and 2) they can control the populace. Everything belongs to the government.

Hell Germany did this with the Bundeswehr turning the Military into a welfare program after the fall of the Soviet Union

 

[SamSpade]

If you’re an NGO and you can’t survive without government funding - you’re not really NGO, are you?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

In every dystopian future novel I've ever read everyone works for the government because 1) there is no private industry anymore; and 2) they can control the populace. Everything belongs to the government.

Now, these are best sellers and books they made us read in Jr. High and High School, so I know I'm not the only one who's ever read them and then looks at our current situation...."Hey....wait a minute.... "

Basically communism

 

[PeoplesElbow]

And yet it does. Government workers are terrified of....the government being audited. Because it will expose waste, fraud, and corruption in many government agencies, and the people who work for those agencies are part of that waste, fraud, and corruption, and many will lose their jobs. So they want to protect themselves at the expense of the rest of us. And you certainly can't blame them for that.

The more government workers you have, the more people who are going to want to protect and hide any shenanigans. If everyone works for the government, there will be zero accountability because everyone will be a wage slave who will have no reason to care about millions of dollars going for "Guatemalan sex changes" (when that money is actually going in the pocket of the elites and not to Guatemala at all).

In the dig the Musk people are finding millions spent on....programs that don't even exist. And millions sent to countries for projects that never even got started. So we know damn well where that money really went. And if everyone works for the government, there will be two classes in this country: the elite overlords and the working poor who have no hope of achieving anything else.

We've seen how that works out in other countries.

The average government worker doesn't have the ability to do this. All purchases, no matter how small have to be approved by their supervisor, then it goes off to a purchaser who does the purchasing, and finally it has to meet certain guidelines.

Where the real waste comes in is the laws governing this sort of thing. Can't buy from Amazon, if I need something only amazon sells because it isn't a small business, isn't a woman or minority owned business a middle company that buys said item from amazon comes in charges a fee plus marks the price up, only then can I buy the item.

I needed some Windex (not for washing my window either btw) but because it had to go through the Hazmat coordinator it ended up costing a bit over $20, but the purchaser's branch fee adds a couple hundred to that it ended up costing a lot. I would have just brought some in from home to do the job, but because Windex is hazmat I could have gotten in big trouble for doing that.

But that isn't even where the real waste is, the real waste involves end of year money, if you don't spend all your money you have to blow it or the bean counters will say you don't need that much and next year will give you less. Cant tell you how many "smart boards" are sitting in the box that were bought with end of year money.

People I know have been pressured to sign off on things vendors delivered not working so they can get a bonus for being early when the job clearly was not completed. They know not to ask me to do that.

I've called the fraud, waste and abuse hotline multiple times throughout the years only for nothing to happen. I'm pretty sure the hotline is waste itself.

 

[WingsOfGold]

Mass suicides yet?

 

[Sneakers]

Mass suicides yet?

I just wish they'd move out of the country like they said they would.