Left and Right

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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From Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy.
Perhaps that's how they started, but what we call "leftist" doesn't even remotely resemble that description. Modern Leftists are militant and anarchist, and use violence to promote their agenda. That is their most defining characteristic.

Compare to Right-wing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable, typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.
I'll go for that, but "right-wing" is a much bigger tent than left-wing. It doesn't presume a characteristic based on your race, religion, or gender, whereas left-wing absolutely does.

I'm not sure what to call the "Left" anymore. "Progressive" is a joke so hilarious it makes my stomach hurt - there is no "progress" in their agenda. It's boot on the neck power and extreme assimilation. "Liberal" is what they used to be before they became tools of the politicians; they haven't been liberal in a very long time.

I like to call things what they are, and reject the labels these groups give themselves, so I'm thinking Stalinist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism

Stalinism promoted the escalation of class conflict, utilizing state violence to forcibly purge society of alleged supporters of the bourgeoisie, whom Stalinist doctrine regarded as threats to the pursuit of the communist revolution. This policy resulted in substantial political violence and persecution of such people. "Enemies" included not only bourgeois people, but also working-class people accused of counter-revolutionary sympathies.
That description sounds exactly like the Democrat Party. So from now on, I will try not to refer to them as "liberals" or "progs" or "leftists" - they are Stalinists. Remind me if I forget - habits are hard to break.
 

Kyle

Imagine No Democrats
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I've been trying not to call them liberal for a long time, for the same reason.

It doesn't apply.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
Staff member
PREMO Member
I've been trying not to call them liberal for a long time, for the same reason.

It doesn't apply.
:yay: Liberal says, "I'm okay, you're okay." Stalinist says, "We embrace diversity....as long as you are exactly like us."
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Progressives have taken a deep dive into Identity Politics .... which is how you end up with Feminists and Gays supporting Linda Sansour and Muslims

2 Groups who would otherwise be persecuted in a Muslim or Islamic country



Why I No Longer Identify as a Feminist

Liberal feminist aims gradually shifted from the position:

“Everyone deserves human rights and equality, and feminism focuses on achieving them for women.”

to

“Individuals and groups of all sexes, races, religions and sexualities have their own truths, norms and values. All truths, cultural norms and moral values are equal. Those of white, Western, heterosexual men have unfairly dominated in the past so now they and all their ideas must be set aside for marginalized groups.”

Liberal feminism had shifted from the universality of equal human rights to identity politics. No longer were ideas valued on their merit but on the identity of the speaker and this was multifaceted, incorporating sex, gender identity, race, religion, sexuality and physical ability. The value of an identity in social justice terms is dependent on its degree of marginalization, and these stack up and vie for primacy. This is where liberal feminism went so badly wrong. When postcolonial guilt fought with feminism, feminism lost. When it fought with LGBT rights, they lost too.

So aware of Western imperialism having trampled on other cultures historically, Western liberal feminism now embraced their most patriarchal aspects. A Western liberal feminist can, on the same day, take part in a slut walk to protest Western women being judged by their clothing and accuse anyone criticizing the niqab of Islamophobia. She can demand the prosecution of a Christian baker for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same sex-couple, and condemn the planning of a Gay Pride march through a heavily Muslim area as racist. Many intersectional feminists do not limit themselves to the criticism of other white, Western feminists but pour vitriolic, racist abuse on liberal Muslim and ex-Muslim feminists and LGBT activists. The misogyny and homophobia of Christianity may be criticized by all (quite rightly) but the misogyny and homophobia of Islam by none, not even Muslims. The right to criticize one’s own culture and religion is seemingly restricted to white westerners (The best analysis of “The Racism of Some Anti-racists” is by Tom Owolade).
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative

A conservative is someone who rises above his personal self-interest and promotes moral and economic values beneficial to all. A conservative is willing to learn and advocate the insights of economics and the logic of the Bible for the benefit of everyone else. A conservative favors conserving value by not giving handouts to anyone who does not really need them.

A conservative typically adheres to principles of personal responsibility, moral values, and limited government, agreeing with George Washington's Farewell Address that "religion and morality are indispensable supports" to political prosperity.[1][2]

Religious conservatism is a big driver of social conservatism. Religious conservatism is growing in the world and it is affecting politics (see: Religious conservatism and politics).

Phil Crane, the leading conservative congressman in the House from 1969 to 2005, urged people to make the world a better place than where they found it, and quoted frequently from the Bible in pursuit of that goal.[3]

Former President Ronald Reagan said, "The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom."[4]

https://www.conservapedia.com/Modern_conservatism

Modern conservatism consists primarily of the following principles:

  • pro-life
  • pro-sovereignty (opposition to globalism and support for the Strategic Defense Initiative)
  • pro-parental rights (support of parental control over school curriculum, and opposition to mandatory vaccination)
  • pro-homeschooling
  • pro-alternatives to rule by the Establishment
  • pro-Second Amendment
  • pro-Christianity in the public square
  • pro-traditional marriage (opposition to "same-sex" "marriage")
  • pro-Constitution - (and anti-Con Con)
  • pro-working class
  • pro-patents
  • anti-Communist
  • anti-feminist
  • anti-judicial supremacy
  • anti-illegal immigration
  • anti-gambling
  • anti-federalizing crime


Social conservatism

Social conservatism refers to conservative values on non-fiscal matters, such as the promoting defense of marriage, opposition to abortion, opposition to homosexuality, and promoting common sense Christian values. The views of social conservatives and religious conservatives often overlap.

Religious conservatism is a big driver of social conservatism. Religious conservatism is growing in the world and it is affecting politics (see: Religious conservatism and politics).

Social conservatism can be contrasted with the marriage-destroying, homosexual-agenda pushing, atheistic, baby-murdering social liberalism that the Democrat party is so fond of. Libertarians also oppose social conservatism in some extent whenever social conservatism advocates government intervention for its goals. Some moderates and pragmatists within the Republican Party in the U.S. also believe some of the social conservative ideas, such as restrictions on contraceptives, are not practical in today's society. Neoconservatives, particularly those of the Bush variety, oppose various forms of social conservatism.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The early 20th century was an era of business expansion and progressive reform in the United States. The progressives, as they called themselves, worked to make American society a better and safer place in which to live. They tried to make big business more responsible through regulations of various kinds. They worked to clean up corrupt city governments, to improve working conditions in factories, and to better living conditions for those who lived in slum areas, a large number of whom were recent immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe. Many progressives were also concerned with the environment and conservation of resources.

This generation of Americans also hoped to make the world a more democratic place. At home, this meant expanding the right to vote to women and a number of election reforms such as the recall, referendum, and direct election of Senators. Abroad, it meant trying to make the world safe for democracy. In 1917, the United States joined Great Britain and France--two democratic nations--in their war against autocratic Germany and Austria-Hungary. Soon after the Great War, the majority of Americans turned away from concern about foreign affairs, adopting an attitude of live and let live.

The 1920s, also known as the "roaring twenties" and as "the new era," were similar to the Progressive Era in that America continued its economic growth and prosperity. The incomes of working people increased along with those of middle class and wealthier Americans. The major growth industry was automobile manufacturing. Americans fell in love with the automobile, which radically changed their way of life. On the other hand, the 1920s saw the decline of many reform activities that had been so widespread after 1900.

http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivities/presentations/timeline/progress/


https://www2.gwu.edu/~erpapers/teachinger/glossary/progressive-era.cfm

Progressivism is the term applied to a variety of responses to the economic and social problems rapid industrialization introduced to America. Progressivism began as a social movement and grew into a political movement. The early progressives rejected Social Darwinism. In other words, they were people who believed that the problems society faced (poverty, violence, greed, racism, class warfare) could best be addressed by providing good education, a safe environment, and an efficient workplace. Progressives lived mainly in the cities, were college educated, and believed that government could be a tool for change. Social reformers, like Jane Addams, and journalists, like Jacob Riis and Ida Tarbel, were powerful voices for progressivism. They concentrated on exposing the evils of corporate greed, combating fear of immigrants, and urging Americans to think hard about what democracy meant. Other local leaders encouraged Americans to register to vote, fight political corruption, and let the voting public decide how issues should best be addressed (the initiative, the referendum, and the recall). On a national level, progressivism gained a strong voice in the White House when Theodore Roosevelt became president in 1901. TR believed that strong corporations were good for America, but he also believed that corporate behavior must be watched to ensure that corporate greed did not get out of hand (trust-busting and federal regulation of business). Progressivism ended with World War I when the horrors of war exposed people's cruelty and many Americans associated President Woodrow Wilson's use of progressive language ("the war to make the world safe for democracy") with the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

Progressivism is the support for or advocacy of improvement of society by reform.[1] It is today largely synonymous with left-of-centre political ideology. As a philosophy, it is based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition. Progressivism became highly significant during the Age of Enlightenment in Europe, out of the belief that Europe was demonstrating that societies could progress in civility from uncivilized conditions to civilization through strengthening the basis of empirical knowledge as the foundation of society.[2] Figures of the Enlightenment believed that progress had universal application to all societies and that these ideas would spread across the world from Europe.[2]

The meanings of progressivism have varied over time and from different perspectives. The contemporary common political conception of progressivism in the culture of the Western world emerged from the vast social changes brought about by industrialization in the Western world in the late 19th century, particularly out of the view that progress was being stifled by vast economic inequality between the rich and the poor; minimally regulated laissez-faire capitalism with monopolistic corporations; and intense and often violent conflict between workers and capitalists, thus claiming that measures were needed to address these problems.[3] Early progressivism was also tied to eugenics[4][5][6] and the temperance movement.[7][8]


The Progressive Movement and the Transformation of American Politics


Progressivism was the reform movement that ran from the late 19th century through the first decades of the 20th century, during which leading intellectuals and social reformers in the United States sought to address the economic, political, and cultural questions that had arisen in the context of the rapid changes brought with the Industrial Revolution and the growth of modern capitalism in America. The Progressives believed that these changes marked the end of the old order and required the creation of a new order appropriate for the new industrial age.



Key Takeaways

  1. The roots of the liberalism with which we are familiar lie in the Progressive Era.
  2. For the Progressives, freedom is redefined as the fulfillment of human capacities, which becomes the primary task of the state.
  3. To some degree, modern conservatism owes its success to a recovery of and an effort to root itself in the Founders' constitutionalism.


While the Progressives differed in their assessment of the problems and how to resolve them, they generally shared in common the view that government at every level must be actively involved in these reforms. The existing constitutional system was outdated and must be made into a dynamic, evolving instrument of social change, aided by scientific knowledge and the development of administrative bureaucracy.

At the same time, the old system was to be opened up and made more democratic; hence, the direct elections of Senators, the open primary, the initiative and referendum. It also had to be made to provide for more revenue; hence, the Sixteenth Amendment and the progressive income tax.

Presidential leadership would provide the unity of direction -- the vision -- needed for true progressive government. "All that progressives ask or desire," wrote Woodrow Wilson, "is permission -- in an era when development, evolution, is a scientific word -- to interpret the Constitution according to the Darwinian principle; all they ask is recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine."
 
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