Let's talk about the elephant in the room

[vraiblonde]

The GOP, to be clear.

We're supposed to be glad that Republicans have a House majority and the Speaker of the House is a Republican, but what exactly has he or any of them done to push against the fascism of the Biden Administration? They've been MIA as far as I can tell.

I get that McCarthy doesn't want to waste time impeaching Biden. Impeachment isn't worth a hill of sh*t - there's no shame in it anymore since the Democrats started using it to lob silly false accusations because they mad, and they wouldn't get the votes to convict in the Senate anyway. But one would think the Republicans would be leading a highly visible fight against this tyranny and so far.... .

Why should I continue to vote for these people who aren't representing me in any way or looking out for the interests of average Americans? Especially when they actively work against the only guy who IS fighting back?

They talktalk but I don't see them actually doing anything.

 

[SamSpade]

Actually in a small part - this is part of the reason I originally registered Democrat, back in the 70's. For better or worse - they start stuff. They imagine and craft bills and try to move them. Most of the time I disagree with what they want, but sometimes I do. They imagine stuff like a space program or a Peace Corps and it bears fruit.

The GOP - they typically amend or try to improve things, but they don't change anything. Some of their initiatives seem bold - but they just fall apart with time. Stuff like No Child Left Behind.

McCarthy doesn't want to impeach Biden for the same obvious reason that the impeachments with Trump didn't work - there's zero chance they will get the votes, and the consequence of it is - HARRIS BECOMES PRESIDENT. But he is proposing they begin impeachment INQUIRIES, because it is the quickest path to getting to the bottom of things without being delayed or obstructed by legal stunts to keep it from happening.

The one thing they have been able to do isn't ground shaking - but - it's still valuable. They put a stop to the disastrous agenda of the previous House. Yeah, it sucks that their biggest accomplishment has been - not being Democrats. But it's not nothing. We don't have green agendas rammed down our throats constantly. We don't have even more giveaways. We may not have a border wall, but we at least aren't seeing amnesty. We're not seeing all the things the left wants.

I do agree with you, mostly. They're kind of toothless. But this House is also - pretty damned slim. It just takes six defectors to lose anything big.

 

[SamSpade]

As an addition - what would you like to see? The wall? The FAIR tax? What kind of things can Congress do - that will make it past the White House - that you'd like to see? That's the OTHER elephant in the room. What CAN they do?

In the days before the Internet - heck in the days of our parents - Congress did all kinds of wheeling and dealing and sent their ideas to the White House - and then received a reply. The White House suggested a budget, the Congress deliberated, came up with their own - and so on.

Since those days - there's constant communication between the branches and the two parts of Congress. These days, stuff DOESN'T get vetoed - because they know ahead of time if it's dead on arrival. Stuff DOES get vetoed in states - because in some of them, they are either not so deeply partisan - or they REALLY are, and they have the votes to override. The House may waste time on a proposal - but if it's stymied by the Senate Majority Leader - it's kind of pointless.

 

[Grumpy]

Nothing would change with an impeachment conviction, the same folks that are controlling Biden will control Harris. Either way, Biden/Harris will not be the nominee in 2024, wouldn't surprise me to see an M Obama/Clinton or Clinton/M. Obama tix in 2024.

 

[SamSpade]

Nothing would change with an impeachment conviction, the same folks that are controlling Biden will control Harris. Either way, Biden/Harris will not be the nominee in 2024, wouldn't surprise me to see an M Obama/Clinton or Clinton/M. Obama tix in 2024.

I really don't see that happening either, but most of my prognostications have been wrong. I just don't see the Democrat bench as being all that deep. It would appear their only chance as an alternative is Newsom, and I don't know how they put the lipstick on that pig. His state is collapsing. He can ridicule DeSantis all he wants, but Florida is the fourth highest destination for emigrants. Behind red Texas, Idaho and Arizona.

And the REASONS they leave - are because of things he's done. HALF of Californians WANT to leave. Honestly, if he becomes the Dem candidate, sure he'll get lots of votes simply by being Dem - but he won't get two-thirds of California, like most Democratic Presidential candidates do.

 

[WingsOfGold]

Impeachment will bring to the MSM facts that they cannot hide any longer to the lemmings that refuse to hear. DO IT............ tomorrow.

 

[PrchJrkr]

Impeachment will bring to the MSM facts that they cannot hide any longer to the lemmings that refuse to hear. DO IT............ tomorrow.

I mostly agree with your post, however, it won't make any ****ing difference to the lemmings. Just look at our resident kook @StmarysCity79 and you'll see what I mean. They aren't going to be swayed by facts. The news folks will twist things and make excuses and they'll blissfully follow along in lockstep praising the shell of a man that biden is. Come on man!

 

[TPD]

Impeachment will bring to the MSM facts that they cannot hide any longer to the lemmings that refuse to hear. DO IT............ tomorrow.

And put it on primetime - every network and cable news station. Just like the dems did with their J6 clown show.

 

[Hijinx]

The Republicans have done nothing to get the J-6 prisoners who are imprisoned against the constitution out of jail and they have done nothing to stop the Pelosi Farce that She calls insurrection and the imprisonment of people who are at best guilty of Trespass to long prison sentences/

Nancy Pelosi set-up the whole invasion of the capitol herself and even had her daughter there to do a documentary on it. She knew what was going to happen and she allowed it to happen. Encouraged it, she alone deserves imprisonment for it.

Republicans useless as tits on a boar.

 

[vraiblonde]

the consequence of it is - HARRIS BECOMES PRESIDENT.

Real question:

Could she be worse than Biden? She's going to have the same masters telling her what to do that tell Biden what to do. I don't see any difference.

 

[vraiblonde]

It would appear their only chance as an alternative is Newsom, and I don't know how they put the lipstick on that pig.

I think Newsom is their best chance and that Democrats would vote for him overwhelmingly despite how he's run CA into the ground. Democrats love that sh*t and don't ever forget it. You said you've been in a cult so you know how it works.

 

[vraiblonde]

I mostly agree with your post, however, it won't make any ****ing difference to the lemmings. Just look at our resident kook @StmarysCity79 and you'll see what I mean. They aren't going to be swayed by facts. The news folks will twist things and make excuses and they'll blissfully follow along in lockstep praising the shell of a man that biden is. Come on man!

This exactly ^^

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Well it stopped or slowed the Democrats to some extent which is good because before they were shoving crap through at an alarming rate.

Congress is better when gridlocked it keeps them bickering with each other instead of ramming it up our asses

 

[PrchJrkr]

And put it on primetime - every network, cable news station, and YouTube. Just like the dems did with their J6 clown show.

FIFY

 

[GoodnessME]

I really don't see that happening either, but most of my prognostications have been wrong. I just don't see the Democrat bench as being all that deep. It would appear their only chance as an alternative is Newsom, and I don't know how they put the lipstick on that pig. His state is collapsing. He can ridicule DeSantis all he wants, but Florida is the fourth highest destination for emigrants. Behind red Texas, Idaho and Arizona.

And the REASONS they leave - are because of things he's done. HALF of Californians WANT to leave. Honestly, if he becomes the Dem candidate, sure he'll get lots of votes simply by being Dem - but he won't get two-thirds of California, like most Democratic Presidential candidates do.

California will vote for him to get him OUT of their state!!!

 

[GURPS]

They aren't going to be swayed by facts. The news folks will twist things and make excuses and they'll blissfully follow along in lockstep praising the shell of a man that biden is. Come on man!

That's the problem, progressives are NOT getting facts, but curated spin, lies and falsehoods .....

Media Generated Spin and faux outrage


Very fine people
bleach for Covid
this will be over by spring
2 scoops
huge salt and pepper shakers
Covfefe
dumping fish food in the coy pond in Japan


but let Biden mumble through some word salad .... the press ' interprets ' of flat out ignores the incident

 

[PrchJrkr]

That's the problem, progressives are NOT getting facts, but curated spin, lies and falsehoods .....

Media Generated Spin and faux outrage


Very fine people
bleach for Covid
this will be over by spring
2 scoops
huge salt and pepper shakers
Covfefe
dumping fish food in the coy pond in Japan


but let Biden mumble through some word salad .... the press ' interprets ' of flat out ignores the incident

I believe the real problem is they're too stupid to realize they're being lied to.

 

[GURPS]

I believe the real problem is they're too stupid to realize they're being lied to.

Ate up with ideology

 

[SamSpade]

I believe the real problem is they're too stupid to realize they're being lied to.

I don't think it's "stupid". I know a few who dig a little below the surface. But most, no. I think like the woman who once asked me which party were the "good guys" and which were the "bad guys" - as if people chose sides based on good and evil - most I know rely on a very small window of news and tend to ignore much beyond the most cursory information.

 

[OccamsRazor]

For many years, The politics of DC has been like 2 bickering parents going through a divorce and we (the voters) are the child in the failed marriage. They are just too damn busy fighting with each other and concerned with destroying the other parent to actually work things out and do any good for the child (the nation). And, when they DO accomplish anything, it is an afterthought. Like "Oh yeah, we have to get off our a$$es and do something about the budget!"