thanks for the response... I did find some straw...as far as it being a pain to clean, not really if you know how to do a straw stall.... I've bedded on both straw and shavings... I have 12 stalls so buying by the bag (whether pine shavings or pelleted bedding would be way to expensive)... We clean our stalls everyday, and most of the stalls I need to only add half a bale, the rest is saved, we get to the bottom of each stall everyday and rake it out. I can do a 12x12 stall in less than 10 minutes and have it clean enough for your grandmother to take a nap in....