Lowering the drinking age?

dustin

UAIOE
the feds will have to change before the states will as IIRC the states would lose funding for roads if they dont meet the fed law of 21.

but i say lower the drinking age to 17, because that's how old you have to be to join the military.
 

pcjohnnyb

New Member
I don't know if this slant has been raised, but what about allowing 18 yr olds to drink beer/ale, even wine, but restrict the consumption of grain alcohol - like bourbon, whiskey, scotch, gin and vodka, etc., until they turn 21?

I forgot, but that is how it was in NY, way back when. :shrug:
Don't think it was mentioned in here, but I agree with that thinking.
I said just last weekend that if I owned a liquor store, I might be a LITTLE lenient if I knew a kid was under 21 and sell them beer now and again, or wine, but not hard liquor. But that is also talking w/o actually dealing with the ramifications that would come if I got caught :lmao:
 

outlawrc

New Member
I don't know if this slant has been raised, but what about allowing 18 yr olds to drink beer/ale, even wine, but restrict the consumption of grain alcohol - like bourbon, whiskey, scotch, gin and vodka, etc., until they turn 21?

I forgot, but that is how it was in NY, way back when. :shrug:
Virginia and DC were this way as well.
When we were 18 we just went to Georgetown and partied because we could legally do it. The bars wouldn't serve us liquer though.:buddies:
 

outlawrc

New Member
I'm sorry, I don't want immature kids drinking booze.

I don't really care what other countries have done in relation to this issue either.
I think parents of today raise their children in a manor in which they are more dependent on us and for longer. Where as our parents raised us to be more self sufficient and less dependent at an earlier age. My point being that this causes Immaturity at age 18 and above, so i can see your point. But I do think this is true for all 18 year olds.
After boot camp, though, I believe the maturity is there in most cases.:buddies:
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
I think parents of today raise their children in a manor in which they are more dependent on us and for longer. Where as our parents raised us to be more self sufficient and less dependent at an earlier age. My point being that this causes Immaturity at age 18 and above, so i can see your point. But I do think this is true for all 18 year olds.
After boot camp, though, I believe the maturity is there in most cases.:buddies:
Serious question now: Why do we drink at all? (I mean alcoholic beverages)

Before I give my opinion, give me some serious answers, please?
 

pcjohnnyb

New Member
Serious question now: Why do we drink at all? (I mean alcoholic beverages)

Before I give my opinion, give me some serious answers, please?
Varies by person.
Stress relief, socialization (bars, parties), just to name a couple reasons :shrug:
 

bcp

In My Opinion
good question.
sometimes I will drink looking for a slight buzz.
sometimes I drink a few beers just because they are there and Im thirsty.

I like the taste of some mixed drinks.

most the time, coke or some other non adult type beverage works just fine.

right now Im still on the coffee.
 

LastSon

Man of Tomorrow
Serious question now: Why do we drink at all? (I mean alcoholic beverages)

Before I give my opinion, give me some serious answers, please?
Personally, I genuinely enjoy the tastes of the different drinks I drink. I do like trying different types of beers and what not. Along with that, there is a good deal of relaxation that goes along with a nice cold beer, which is why I always found it weird that some people who get drunk use it as an excuse to get into a fight. I couldn't be more relaxed when I'm having a beer after a day at work.
 

pcjohnnyb

New Member
Personally, I genuinely enjoy the tastes of the different drinks I drink. I do like trying different types of beers and what not. Along with that, there is a good deal of relaxation that goes along with a nice cold beer, which is why I always found it weird that some people who get drunk use it as an excuse to get into a fight. I couldn't be more relaxed when I'm having a beer after a day at work.
The key is "a" beer.
Most fights aren't the result of a single beer :lol: With consumption of alcohol, the more you drink, the more likely you are to act on your first instincts to a situation AND misinterpret a situation for something it isn't (such as thinking a person is being aggressive towards you when they're not).

At least that is my observation of the situation.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Ok, I'm fine with all three of you folks; I have a beer after work because I'm usually thirsty as hell, and nothing quenches a thirst - for me - better than a cold beer.
Other times, I want to relax and get a small buzz on, and what I'll do is mix up a heathy batch off frozen Margaritas.
My father did try to teach me, if you're going to drink, get into the "good stuff"; do not buy cheap alcohol, or liquor. It took me a few years, to figure out what he was telling me! :lol:
Fights, nah..... I was usually pretty mellow when I was younger, later on I figured who needs it? Not that it never happened, but it was rare indeed.
 

sommpd

New Member
how about leave it at 21 but allow them to drink at 18 if they are in the military.
lets see how adult like the majority of the whiners think they are.
not mature enough to join the military at 18, not mature enough to drink.
I think that is fair.
That is a great Idea. I remember when I was in the military eighteen year olds could drink on base, but not off base. The base was down south, don't know if they still do that.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Ok, I'm fine with all three of you folks; I have a beer after work because I'm usually thirsty as hell, and nothing quenches a thirst - for me - better than a cold beer.
Other times, I want to relax and get a small buzz on, and what I'll do is mix up a heathy batch off frozen Margaritas.
My father did try to teach me, if you're going to drink, get into the "good stuff"; do not buy cheap alcohol, or liquor. It took me a few years, to figure out what he was telling me! :lol:
Fights, nah..... I was usually pretty mellow when I was younger, later on I figured who needs it? Not that it never happened, but it was rare indeed.
come to the next camp out. we can quench our thirst repeatedly around a campfire.
 

dustin

UAIOE
That is a great Idea. I remember when I was in the military eighteen year olds could drink on base, but not off base. The base was down south, don't know if they still do that.
no they dont do that anymore on bases. it's all 21 now.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
come to the next camp out. we can quench our thirst repeatedly around a campfire.
I wanted to make this one, but I was scheduled to work Sat/Sun. and I knew it was out of the question.

Hope we can get together and share a few suds sometime? :buddies:
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Oh yeah! There are times when I'm preparing dinner, after getting home from work, that I will mix up a Gin Martini, as I'm marinating the steak, 1st one, cleaning off the grill and putting together a salad, #2, then cleaning up and preparing some baked potatoes, put the steak on the grill, #3, and by then,
I'm VERY smooth! :killingme

Number #4 is a no-no! Because then, I begin to hear little voices talking to me! :lol:
 

LastSon

Man of Tomorrow
Oh yeah! There are times when I'm preparing dinner, after getting home from work, that I will mix up a Gin Martini, as I'm marinating the steak, 1st one, cleaning off the grill and putting together a salad, #2, then cleaning up and preparing some baked potatoes, put the steak on the grill, #3, and by then,
I'm VERY smooth! :killingme

Number #4 is a no-no! Because then, I begin to hear little voices talking to me! :lol:
:lol:

And that is why my girlfriend suggests that I not drink anything stronger than a beer/glass of wine when preparing dinner. :wink:
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
:lol:

And that is why my girlfriend suggests that I not drink anything stronger than a beer/glass of wine when preparing dinner. :wink:
Yeah!

But, it's those little voices! The one on my right shoulder says something like:
"Getting a little effed up here, aren't we?"

Then, the voice on the left shoulder says - "Yeah, but who gives a danm, you?" :killingme

That there is some scary shaitt! :lol:
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I am a firm believer that at 18 you are considered an adultand as an adult you should be able to drink. This has been said a kazillion times, but if you are old enough to die for your country you should be able to drink. :yay:
Absolutely agree with you. I joined the military at 17. In many places even overseas, I couldn't legally drink...not that that stopped me, mind you.

However, we're talking about pussies who don't have stones enough to join the military and serve their country. We're talking about emotionally retarded little azz-wipes who are milking mommy and daddy's money for all they can.

If you can show a valid military ID, I don't care what age you are. If you can't, you don't drink.
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
If you're old enough to fight for your country and vote, you should be old enough to drink... :coffee:
45 percent of idiots want to elect Barak Nobama. The rest of the idiots are voting for the last vestiges of the WWII generation (John McCain).
 
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