Manifesto

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I'm getting tired of that word. For people who have been formally educated in communication, the news heads don't seem to be particularly well-versed in creative (not to mention correct) language usage.

man·i·fes·to (măn'ə-fĕs'tō)
A public declaration of principles, policies, or intentions, especially of a political nature.

A better description of the Cho crap would be:

di·a·tribe (dī'ə-trīb')
A bitter, abusive denunciation.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Yeah...

vraiblonde said:
I'm getting tired of that word. For people who have been formally educated in communication, the news heads don't seem to be particularly well-versed in creative (not to mention correct) language usage.

man·i·fes·to (măn'ə-fĕs'tō)
A public declaration of principles, policies, or intentions, especially of a political nature.

A better description of the Cho crap would be:

di·a·tribe (dī'ə-trīb')
A bitter, abusive denunciation.



...but 'manifesto' sounds cool and intriguing and worth listening to.

'Diatribe' sounds like the meanderings of a mad man. Who do you sell tickets to that?
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
As far as I'm concerned - no matter what its called - it should never have been released to the public. Reviewed by law enforcement? Yes. Reviewed by surviving victims and families of those involved? Sure, to help them understand the insanity and start healing. To the general public? NO. No fifteen minutes of fame for the bad guy. No glorification. Nothing. In fact, in the future when reporting such horrors, all perpetrators should be named douchebag. No real name given. Nothing.
 

camily

Peace
bresamil said:
As far as I'm concerned - no matter what its called - it should never have been released to the public. Reviewed by law enforcement? Yes. Reviewed by surviving victims and families of those involved? Sure, to help them understand the insanity and start healing. To the general public? NO. No fifteen minutes of fame for the bad guy. No glorification. Nothing. In fact, in the future when reporting such horrors, all perpetrators should be named douchebag. No real name given. Nothing.
Now that's funny! :lmao:
Matt Lauer: "In Today's news, a Douchebag went on murderous rampage. NBC received a homemade video from Douchebag that we never copied and sent directly to the police. The diatribe will never be released to the public. Douchebag will remain nameless and faceless, though we have unconfirmed reports he was fresh as a Summer Breeze." :lol:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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camily said:
Matt Lauer: "In Today's news, a Douchebag went on murderous rampage. NBC received a homemade video from Douchebag that we never copied and sent directly to the police. The diatribe will never be released to the public. Douchebag will remain nameless and faceless, though we have unconfirmed reports he was fresh as a Summer Breeze." :lol:
I love it! :yay:
 

Pete

Repete
bresamil said:
As far as I'm concerned - no matter what its called - it should never have been released to the public. Reviewed by law enforcement? Yes. Reviewed by surviving victims and families of those involved? Sure, to help them understand the insanity and start healing. To the general public? NO. No fifteen minutes of fame for the bad guy. No glorification. Nothing. In fact, in the future when reporting such horrors, all perpetrators should be named douchebag. No real name given. Nothing.
I disagree. The bad guy is dead, he is not reveling in anything. He will never reap nor enjoy any of this "fame".

From the numerous times I have seen it is totally stupid so 99.9999999% of the people out there are not going to glorify anything he said, just shake their heads in disbelief.

It is hideously ugly and evil. There are more people out there just like him walking around. People need to see the ugliness so they can connect the dots and expose these freaks so maybe the next massacre can be thwarted or avoided. For too long we have been beaten over the head with the "tolerance" hammer. Maybe now with this freak plastered all over the screen, psychiatrist, psychologist, judges will grow a set of balls and institutionalize or incarcerate people deemed a threat to society.

There are freaks right here who have jobs that protect the public interest and I have to roll my eyes and wonder "WTF! :confused:" because they are quite a few fries short of a happy meal themselves.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Pete said:
I disagree. The bad guy is dead, he is not reveling in anything. He will never reap nor enjoy any of this "fame".

From the numerous times I have seen it is totally stupid so 99.9999999% of the people out there are not going to glorify anything he said, just shake their heads in disbelief.

It is hideously ugly and evil. There are more people out there just like him walking around. People need to see the ugliness so they can connect the dots and expose these freaks so maybe the next massacre can be thwarted or avoided. For too long we have been beaten over the head with the "tolerance" hammer. Maybe now with this freak plastered all over the screen, psychiatrist, psychologist, judges will grow a set of balls and institutionalize or incarcerate people deemed a threat to society.

There are freaks right here who have jobs that protect the public interest and I have to roll my eyes and wonder "WTF! :confused:" because they are quite a few fries short of a happy meal themselves.
My concern is those freaks that want the 15 minutes of fame. The copycats and their ilk. In this case the guy is dead but in many cases they are around to write books and have interviews and give others grand ideas.
Informing the public of the behaviors that would be a warning signal to look for in others is different than showing the nutjob's video.
 

Pete

Repete
bresamil said:
My concern is those freaks that want the 15 minutes of fame. The copycats and their ilk. In this case the guy is dead but in many cases they are around to write books and have interviews and give others grand ideas.
Informing the public of the behaviors that would be a warning signal to look for in others is different than showing the nutjob's video.
But nothing is better than getting to see the freak for exactly what it is. The most impact, WHAM! Heeeeeeeerrrrrrreeeeeeee's Johnny! :yikes:

NEarly every state has laws prohibiting inmates or people convicted from gaining financially form their crime, book deals, movie rights or anything.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Pete said:
But nothing is better than getting to see the freak for exactly what it is. The most impact, WHAM! Heeeeeeeerrrrrrreeeeeeee's Johnny! :yikes:

NEarly every state has laws prohibiting inmates or people convicted from gaining financially form their crime, book deals, movie rights or anything.
That has to be after Susan Atkins novel "Child of Satan, Child of God" She was a Manson chick.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Pete said:
But nothing is better than getting to see the freak for exactly what it is. The most impact, WHAM! Heeeeeeeerrrrrrreeeeeeee's Johnny! :yikes:

NEarly every state has laws prohibiting inmates or people convicted from gaining financially form their crime, book deals, movie rights or anything.
I wish they hadn't even posted his picture, the victims should be remembered, the gunman should be forgotten.

I think its just as wrong for him to gain fame-even in death- as it would be for him to gain financially.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Midnightrider said:
I wish they hadn't even posted his picture, the victims should be remembered, the gunman should be forgotten.

I think its just as wrong for him to gain fame-even in death- as it would be for him to gain financially.

Exactly. So some other nut says "when I go I'm taking a bunch with me so everyone remembers my name".
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Midnightrider said:
I wish they hadn't even posted his picture, the victims should be remembered, the gunman should be forgotten.

I think its just as wrong for him to gain fame-even in death- as it would be for him to gain financially.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/82/82pstutts.phtml

Ted Koppel: In just a moment, John David Stutts will face arraignment on charges of murder. Why did Stutts do it? We’ve asked noted criminal psychiatrist Dr. Irwin Fletcher for his expert opinion.

[An older gentleman appears on the large “ABC NIGHTLINE” screen.]

Ted Koppel: Welcome, doctor. What makes a man like John David Stutts commit such a crime?

Fletcher: Publicity. In the deranged mind of the killer, he truly believes that, if he kills someone famous, he’ll become famous himself. [scoldingly] And, unfortunately, certain irresponsible members of the media are only too eager to turn these assassins into instant celebrities.

Ted Koppel: [nonplussed] Thank you, doctor. [turns to camera] Let’s take a look at the man who killed Buckwheat: John David Stutts.
 
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