Media is obsessed with COVID cases, but death rate is what is important

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Obviously the “new case” data point is both real and relevant, but it is also now extremely misleading. By incompetently using the same measure of what a “positive” virus test meant in April, to what it now means in July, the news media is in the process of, quite effectively, sabotaging America’s recovery from this crisis.

The data, as well as basic logic, now makes it overwhelmingly obvious that nowhere near as many people who recently tested positive for the virus are going to die as did when this nightmare began. In fact, if the news media was inclined to do so (LMAO), there is potentially a positive story to tell with regard to our current numbers.

While the development has gotten scandalously little news coverage, the daily numbers of deaths with/of Covid has been declining with remarkable consistency for well over two months now.

On April 21, the 7-day rolling average for deaths with/of Covid was 2,225, according to the Worldomoters tracker. As of this writing, it is now down to 511, which, in a country of almost 330 million people, is statistically extremely small (for perspective, this time of year about 1,400 people die in nursing homes every single day).

Presumably, a big part of the reason the media has essentially disregarded what should be very welcome news is that there is a fear/expectation (for some partisans, even at least a hint of hope) that the declining trend on deaths will eventually reverse itself, especially with new cases rising so dramatically. This might be a valid cause for pumping the breaks on reporting positive news, except we now have very strong reasons to radically reevaluate what these “new case” numbers really mean.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/06/media-is-obsessed-with-covid-cases-but-death-rate-is-what-is-important/
 

Crabcatcher79

Active Member
Obviously the “new case” data point is both real and relevant, but it is also now extremely misleading. By incompetently using the same measure of what a “positive” virus test meant in April, to what it now means in July, the news media is in the process of, quite effectively, sabotaging America’s recovery from this crisis.

The data, as well as basic logic, now makes it overwhelmingly obvious that nowhere near as many people who recently tested positive for the virus are going to die as did when this nightmare began. In fact, if the news media was inclined to do so (LMAO), there is potentially a positive story to tell with regard to our current numbers.

While the development has gotten scandalously little news coverage, the daily numbers of deaths with/of Covid has been declining with remarkable consistency for well over two months now.

On April 21, the 7-day rolling average for deaths with/of Covid was 2,225, according to the Worldomoters tracker. As of this writing, it is now down to 511, which, in a country of almost 330 million people, is statistically extremely small (for perspective, this time of year about 1,400 people die in nursing homes every single day).

Presumably, a big part of the reason the media has essentially disregarded what should be very welcome news is that there is a fear/expectation (for some partisans, even at least a hint of hope) that the declining trend on deaths will eventually reverse itself, especially with new cases rising so dramatically. This might be a valid cause for pumping the breaks on reporting positive news, except we now have very strong reasons to radically reevaluate what these “new case” numbers really mean.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/06/media-is-obsessed-with-covid-cases-but-death-rate-is-what-is-important/

Wrong as usual.

Any deaths from Covid are unnecessary and preventable. 130,000 americans have lost their lives due to Trumps incompetence and Ego.

Event he source of the Virus , China has managed to contain it while ur numbers continue to grow.

Had we had real leadership who didnt politicize a virus we wouldn't have the number of deaths we have nor the number we will have in a few more months.



The same people that cry about a 4 week old clump of cells that isn't capable of life on its own are now dismissing thousands of deaths becuase the dont want Trump to look bad.

And you guys claim to be pro-life.

Such hypocrisy.
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
When did I ever say I was pro-life.

Hell, I'd abort every leftist in the nation given half a chance. :jet:
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Wrong as usual.
YOUR OPINION ..... Liar

Any deaths from Covid are unnecessary and preventable. 130,000 americans have lost their lives due to Trumps incompetence and Ego.
Bullsht Preventable HOW ? Again OPINION not borne out by ANY Facts

Event he source of the Virus, China has managed to contain it while ur numbers continue to grow.
Trump is an incompetent Liar but YOU Believe Communist China is telling the Truth 🤣

You are a Special Kind of Clueless

..... also China is a Authoritarian Dictatorship, you don't do what the Gov says, you get arrested, speak out against the Gov Narrative You Get Arrested


Leaked Chinese Virus Database Covers 230 Cities, 640,000 Updates

Beijing claims that since the coronavirus pandemic began at the end of last year, there have been only 82,919 confirmed cases and 4,633 deaths in mainland China. Those numbers could be roughly accurate, and in that case a detailed account would be an important tool in judging the spread of the virus. But it’s also possible that the numbers presented to the rest of the world are vastly understated compared to Beijing’s private figures. The opaqueness and mistrust of outsiders in the Chinese Communist Party’s system makes it hard to judge—but learning more about the coronavirus data used directly by Chinese officials is invaluable for governments elsewhere. A dataset of coronavirus cases and deaths from the military’s National University of Defense Technology, leaked to Foreign Policy, offers insight into how Beijing has gathered coronavirus data on its population. The source of the leak, who asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of sharing Chinese military data, said that the data came from the university. The school publishes a data tracker for the coronavirus: The online version matches with the leaked information, except it is far less detailed—it shows just the map of cases, not the distinct data.

Coronavirus: China's fall in phone users fuels death-toll doubts

Chinese mobile-phone companies lost millions of users in February, fuelling suggestions that the country’s coronavirus death toll is far higher than officially reported.

Report of Urns Stacked at Wuhan Funeral Homes Raises Questions About the Real Coronavirus Death Toll in China

Outside one funeral home, trucks shipped in about 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday, according to Chinese media outlet Caixin. Another picture published by Caixin showed 3,500 urns stacked on the ground inside. It’s unclear how many of the urns had been filled.

People who answered the phone at six of the eight funeral homes in Wuhan said they either did not have data on how many urns were waiting to be collected, or were not authorized to disclose the numbers. Calls were not answered at the other two.

Some families said they had been forced to wait for several hours to pick up the ashes. The photos circulated as mass deaths from the virus spiked in cities across the west, including Milan, Madrid and New York, where hospitals were erecting tents to handle the overflow as global infections soar.

According to Chinese government figures, 2,548 people in Wuhan have died of the virus. The announcement that a lockdown in place since January would be lifted came after China said its tally of new cases had hit zero and stepped up diplomatic outreach to other countries hard hit by the virus, sending some of them medical supplies.


Had we had real leadership who did not politicize a virus
Politicizing has been coming from the Democrats since Trump implemented a Chinese Travel Ban

we wouldn't have the number of deaths we have nor the number we will have in a few more months.
Fantasy Supposition Innuendo and Unfounded OPINION ...... YOU have NO Clue how many deaths could have been prevented or how many more would have died.

The same people that cry about a 4 week old clump of cells that isn't capable of life on its own are now dismissing thousands of deaths because the dont want Trump to look bad.
Burn that straw man Sapidus .... Abortion has nothing to do with Covid-19

And you guys claim to be pro-life.

Such hypocrisy.

I wish Trump was the Dictator you claim him to be, I'd personally see you off to the Gulags
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The deaths of little kids gunned down in Democrat run cities are unnecessary and preventable, but I don't see you giving a chit about them.

Such hypocrisy.

Multiple black children gunned down around black lives matter occupied zones
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Every day it seems they are more determined to take this thing to November in the mistaken idea that it will put Biden in the White House.
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
Every day it seems they are more determined to take this thing to November in the mistaken idea that it will put Biden in the White House.
Don't underestimate the power of leftist morons in large numbers.
 

CPUSA

Well-Known Member
Wrong as usual.

Any deaths from Covid are unnecessary and preventable. 130,000 americans have lost their lives due to Trumps incompetence and Ego.

Event he source of the Virus , China has managed to contain it while ur numbers continue to grow.

Had we had real leadership who didnt politicize a virus we wouldn't have the number of deaths we have nor the number we will have in a few more months.



The same people that cry about a 4 week old clump of cells that isn't capable of life on its own are now dismissing thousands of deaths becuase the dont want Trump to look bad.

And you guys claim to be pro-life.

Such hypocrisy.
Go away TrannyPanty
And go get you some powder or cream for your crotch crabs...
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
If the number of deaths due to COVID-19 is dropping, but cases are rising - the most logical answer is that all they are doing is discovering the myriads of asymptomatic people they've known were out there all along. I suppose if we tested for antibodies among the general public - which we can't afford but if we did - we'd find an INCREDIBLE increase of "cases".

The other conclusion I might draw is, we're getting a lot better at treating this.

What else makes sense? Cases go up, daily deaths go down. Either we're better at stopping death, or find more cases where people aren't going to die.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Wrong as usual.

Any deaths from Covid are unnecessary and preventable. 130,000 americans have lost their lives due to Trumps incompetence and Ego.

Event he source of the Virus , China has managed to contain it while ur numbers continue to grow.

Had we had real leadership who didnt politicize a virus we wouldn't have the number of deaths we have nor the number we will have in a few more months.



The same people that cry about a 4 week old clump of cells that isn't capable of life on its own are now dismissing thousands of deaths becuase the dont want Trump to look bad.

And you guys claim to be pro-life.

Such hypocrisy.
That is 100% an unforgivable LIE..

I can't even blame it on your ignorance.. just your hate, and flat out willingness to lie.
 

GregV814

Well-Known Member
Dear crabbypatty:
I imagine in your mind you are a noted genius, scholar and probably a well respected theologian. Wonderful.
And your thoughts, wisdom and ability to articulate even the most tertiary issues troubling our society today are worthy of martyrdom!
So, I will certainly nominate and proclaim your cult status as that title demands, if you do your part!
Carefully research the regulations pertaining to that honorable title.
 

Crabcatcher79

Active Member
That is 100% an unforgivable LIE..

I can't even blame it on your ignorance.. just your hate, and flat out willingness to lie.

Where's the lie?


You don't care about Americans dead from Corona virus or American soldiers dead from Putins bounty.

That is what is unforgivable. Yet you call yourself a patriot but are traitorous in your thrall to a conman.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Where's the lie?


You don't care about Americans dead from Corona virus or American soldiers dead from Putins bounty.

That is what is unforgivable. Yet you call yourself a patriot but are traitorous in your thrall to a conman.
Like I said, you can not be this ignorant, so the only other answer is, you ARE this dishonest.

You have provided no facts to support your lies.. not one. You're just a dishonest piece of crap.
 
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