Meet 1.6 Million ‘Redditors’ Who Want to Abolish Work

[GURPS]

“Saying we are anti-job is not quite right, because a job is just an activity one is paid for, and we are not all against money,” reads the FAQ section. “‘Anti-labor’ makes us sound like we’re against any effort at all, and we already get that enough as is. (We’re not, by the way.)”

But while the forum seeks to veil itself with semantic word games, its Marxist leanings quickly become apparent. Further down, the FAQ section suggests that the subreddit isn’t against work per se, just against work under capitalism.

This is classic Marxism, aiming the people’s enmity toward capitalism and promising a better world should the economic philosophy disappear. As Karl Marx wrote in “Das Kapital,” “Capital is dead labor, that, vampire-like, only lives by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks.”

In recent years, the idea of work has come under fire. Andrew Yang, then a Democratic presidential hopeful, called for enactment of a universal basic income, arguing that the government should ensure that all American citizens can have their needs met by default.

Meet 1.6 Million ‘Redditors’ Who Want to Abolish Work

One of Reddit’s biggest forums is dedicated to "Redditors" who support abolishing work and jobs "structured under capitalism."

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[BOP]

More children who still believe that money grows on trees or something.

 

[SamSpade]

More children who still believe that money grows on trees or something.

I grew up with a woman who - now my age - sincerely believes it's just a matter of how much money the government wants to PRINT.
Yep - she thinks printing money is the main way we MAKE money in the United States and repeatedly dismissed any discussion explaining to her about inflation.

 

[BOP]

I grew up with a woman who - now my age - sincerely believes it's just a matter of how much money the government wants to PRINT.
Yep - she thinks printing money is the main way we MAKE money in the United States and repeatedly dismissed any discussion explaining to her about inflation.

That biblical injunction of "if anyone be ignorant, let them be ignorant" misses the fact that ignorance, especially en masse, can be dangerous.

 

[glhs837]

Just yesterday, they imploded. One reddit thats in my feed is Anarcho Capitalism, and they love the antiwork crowd with a deep love Here's A/Cs take on the whole thing. Comments are awesome. That is a link you can follow, if you wish.

 

[SamSpade]

That biblical injunction of "if anyone be ignorant, let them be ignorant" misses the fact that ignorance, especially en masse, can be dangerous.

I agree, but the Bible verse you quote isn't meant in the manner you're using, and comes across as a consequence of evolution of language and suffers from translation. At one time the word ignorant did not mean uneducated or uninformed, but rather someone who willfully or not ignores something - in this case, someone who chooses to ignore Paul's teaching. Other translations have it as "if he ignores this, let him BE ignored". The entire first Corinthian letter serves as a template for every single thing a young church can possibly GET WRONG, from people pigging out at the Lord's Supper to bragging about their gifts, to literal divisions, suing one another - and worse.

Back to my post - we tried carefully to explain WHY government printing money causes inflation. And you're right, we were met with "invincible ignorance" - insistence we were wrong and it was all right wing BS.

ADMITTEDLY - if you are trying to persuade someone - you have to give them a chance to save face - to change their opinion without having to humiliate themselves. Unless THAT is what you're really hoping to accomplish. I've argued enough with people to know that the aim is often, overwhelm someone with so much material HOPING (vainly) they will toss up their hands and admit defeat.

NO ONE ever does this.

 

[Hijinx]

Someone has to work.
The food doesn't grow itself.
If no one worked who would mail them their check?

Jiminy Cricket is a fairy tale.

 

[Sneakers]

I would love to create a utopia for these people, a full working city and let them occupy it. Then step away. No one works. No one works to sanitize the water. No one works to feed and repair the generators. No one works to remove trash. No police.

I give it a week before it totally implodes.

 

[UglyBear]

As someone who was born in a very close approximation of a perfect socialist state...



I would love to see them try this “working is icky, me no want to” thing under dear Uncle Joe.

 

[vraiblonde]

I would love to create a utopia for these people, a full working city and let them occupy it. Then step away. No one works. No one works to sanitize the water. No one works to feed and repair the generators. No one works to remove trash. No police.

I give it a week before it totally implodes.

We saw how that worked out with Portland's "Summer of Love".

 

[glhs837]

As someone who was born in a very close approximation of a perfect socialist state...



I would love to see them try this “working is icky, me no want to” thing under dear Uncle Joe.

You mean your old Uncle Joe, not our current Uncle Joe, I assume?

 

[UglyBear]

You mean your old Uncle Joe, not our current Uncle Joe, I assume?

I said “dear Uncle Joe”.
I would never call The Vegetable “dear”.
(your question sent me down a long thought examination of ethical comparison between genocidal maniac who modernized a backwards country at the cost of tens of millions of lives, vs a corrupt demented POS who is trying to plunge a prosperous advanced country backwards just to accrue power).

 

[GURPS]

Moderator fired from anti-work subreddit after disastrous Fox News interview

Ms Ford was lambasted by users on the site.

“You literally made this sub look so bad and then doubled down off camera,” user Meteos_Shiny_Hair wrote.

User corkythecactus posted that it was an “extremely poor decision” to participate in the interview and “I don’t think you realize how much damage you’ve done.

“We can’t afford to half ass our opportunities to spread our message,” the user continued. “We need someone who is prepared to deliver convincing talking points eloquently to a hostile audience. Someone who is trained, passionate, and has plenty of energy. Not just any random moderator who’s willing to go on tv.”

Ms Ford tried to defend herself on the site, writing: “I had done interviews before but never live and I underestimated how different it was. I won’t be making that mistake again.”

She had given an interview in November to The Independent but declined to comment following the subreddit drama this week.

 

[RoseRed]

Moderator fired from anti-work subreddit after disastrous Fox News interview

Ms Ford was lambasted by users on the site.

“You literally made this sub look so bad and then doubled down off camera,” user Meteos_Shiny_Hair wrote.

User corkythecactus posted that it was an “extremely poor decision” to participate in the interview and “I don’t think you realize how much damage you’ve done.

“We can’t afford to half ass our opportunities to spread our message,” the user continued. “We need someone who is prepared to deliver convincing talking points eloquently to a hostile audience. Someone who is trained, passionate, and has plenty of energy. Not just any random moderator who’s willing to go on tv.”

Ms Ford tried to defend herself on the site, writing: “I had done interviews before but never live and I underestimated how different it was. I won’t be making that mistake again.”

She had given an interview in November to The Independent but declined to comment following the subreddit drama this week.

I watched this last night. What a clusterphuck. And, she's a dude.

 

[BOP]

I agree, but the Bible verse you quote isn't meant in the manner you're using, and comes across as a consequence of evolution of language and suffers from translation. At one time the word ignorant did not mean uneducated or uninformed, but rather someone who willfully or not ignores something - in this case, someone who chooses to ignore Paul's teaching. Other translations have it as "if he ignores this, let him BE ignored". The entire first Corinthian letter serves as a template for every single thing a young church can possibly GET WRONG, from people pigging out at the Lord's Supper to bragging about their gifts, to literal divisions, suing one another - and worse.

Back to my post - we tried carefully to explain WHY government printing money causes inflation. And you're right, we were met with "invincible ignorance" - insistence we were wrong and it was all right wing BS.

ADMITTEDLY - if you are trying to persuade someone - you have to give them a chance to save face - to change their opinion without having to humiliate themselves. Unless THAT is what you're really hoping to accomplish. I've argued enough with people to know that the aim is often, overwhelm someone with so much material HOPING (vainly) they will toss up their hands and admit defeat.

NO ONE ever does this.

The ahem allegedly Christian organization I was affiliated with, many decades ago was all about "we're right, and everybody else is wrong; even other so-called Christians."

While I was still a relative neophyte that that organization (2 or 3 years in, I think), I happened to take a class out at Southwestern College that really messed with my mind, and allowed me to leave said organization relatively unscathed.

I want to say it was called "The Right/Wrong Paradigm," or something like that, but it really opened my eyes and has impacted my thought processes throughout the years. The pattern for the vast majority of us is that philosophically, we want to be right, and to do so, we tend to make other people wrong.

What I learned in that class was that I don't have to be "right"; I only have to be empirically (that is, demonstrably) correct. It's actually been a helpful way the view the world. I still catch myself falling into that pattern, but the mindfulness is there to alert me so I can correct my thought process.

I don't know what that has to do with the price of tea in China, but I felt like sharing that.

 

[BOP]

I would love to create a utopia for these people, a full working city and let them occupy it. Then step away. No one works. No one works to sanitize the water. No one works to feed and repair the generators. No one works to remove trash. No police.

I give it a week before it totally implodes.

They already did that. It was called "Chaz," or something equally stupid.

 

[BOP]

You mean your old Uncle Joe, not our current Uncle Joe, I assume?

Stalin is who I believe he was referring to; not the walking Cabbage Patch doll in the White House.

 

[glhs837]

Stalin is who I believe he was referring to; not the walking Cabbage Patch doll in the White House.

That was my take as well, but figured it was worth asking

 

[Clem72]

I grew up with a woman who - now my age - sincerely believes it's just a matter of how much money the government wants to PRINT.
Yep - she thinks printing money is the main way we MAKE money in the United States and repeatedly dismissed any discussion explaining to her about inflation.

Total federal tax receipts for 2020 were $3.71T, the federal budget for 2020 was $4.79T. Whether you want to call it "debt" (that you loaned to yourself and will never be paid back) or printed money is up to you. Sounds like your friend may have been wrong in the past, but given the trend she may be right in the not to distant future.

 

[glhs837]

Young relative posted a meme about tax refunds. Young female friend of his posted that she was getting about 1K less back this year, but she was okay with her 9K.