Mental Health for Children

Ange1icflowers

New Member
OK. This is NOT a thread to turn into some sort of bashing, controversial hullaballoo. I just want to share some experiences so that others will not have to deal with what I did.

On 10/31/11, my 7 year old told his teacher he wanted to kill himself. He even had a plan. He was serious. We took him to Calvert Memorial hospital that night. A psychiatrist in the ER spent well over an hour in the room talking with us and him, and observing him. He felt that my child was dealing with "untreated AD/HD" and that was causing the majority of his issues. However, being a "general" psychiatrist, and not a pediatric psychiatrist, he was uncomfortable prescribing meds for my son. He recommended that we get him into therapy, and have him seen (Preferably within a week) by a pediatric psychiatrist to have him medicated so he could begin dealing with the other issues.

I spent the next 10 days making HUNDREDS of phone calls. To psychiatrists, to therapists, to my GP, to the insurance. I called in Charles, Calvert, and St Mary's counties. Either they wouldn't accept private insurance (I was told "if you have medicaid we can help you") or couldn't see him until Late January. I did get one psychiatrist who was so concerned, however, that she was willing to reschedule some of her patients to see him but the insurance wouldn't cover it so I would have to pay the whole visit Out of Pocket. By the time that came, things had escalated.

I went to get my child from the bus stop and the bus driver told me there had been an "incident" on the bus. My son had tried to hurt himself seriously on the bus. He had taken a bungee type cord that was on his bookbag and wrapped it around his neck and pulled. He was turning blue, and kept pulling. The bus driver had some older students remove the cord from his neck and they sat with him up front until they got to the bus stop. That afternoon I did one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I took my son to Johns Hopkins Hospital ER and requested he be "committed" or held in the inpatient pediatric psychiatric department. I cried the whole way there. After talking with the ER docs, Psychiatrists, social workers, and nurses, we all felt this was the best decision. JH had no available pediatric psych beds, so my son was transferred to Sheppard Pratt hospital. During the intake process at Sheppard Pratt, my son proceeded to kick my husband and I, punch us, and basically FLIP OUT saying he hated us and wished he could kill us. They had to sedate my 7 year old.

Now let me say this, my son has always had his "quirks". He could be the HAPPIEST of happy, the angriest of Angry, and is extremely intelligent. HOwever, if someone had told me that @ age 7 we would be dealing with this, I would have said "NO WAY".

Sheppard Pratt held my son for 5 days, during which they evaluated him. When he was released, we had a diagnosis of Aspberger's Syndrome (An autism-spectrum disorder) and anxiety disorder. They put him on an SSRI (Anti Depressant). It made him a DEMON child. At our follow up visit with a psychiatrist in Prince Fredrick, the psychiatrist felt that we were dealing with a "Bipolar disorder-like issue", took him off of the SSRI, and put him on a mood stabilizer.

I know it's a long story, but hopefully it helps someone, who may be going through similar issues. My son is now in weekly therapy, sees a psychiatrist monthly, and we are still working on solidifying which diagnoses are fitting.

IF your child says they want to kill themselves, and has a plan that is feasible, PLEASE listen, no matter how young. Yes, apparently even 7 yr olds can feel that way.

If you need information on mental health services available (or my personal recommendations) in Southern MD, feel free to message me. I am open about what has happened with my child because I do not want some other parent to have a similar situation, with more tragic results.
 
Excellent thread... there are a lot of people who don't realize the how to deal with a child with a serious chemical imbalance and your experience might save them some time and frustration and point them in the right direction. Than you for sharing.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Pediatric cases are so complicated. SO, SO complicated. Unfortunately, your definitive diagnosis may be a ways off. Kids don't present classic symptoms, and VERY often there are underlying medical conditions. I am sure you have already done this, but a thorough medical evaluation is really important..it could very easily be a medical condition that is at the very least exacerbating the symptoms you describe. Shepperd Pratt is well respected for their pediatric services, and perhaps continueing to see a doc up there would be helpful. multiple docs= multiple diagnosis=lots of drugs with unknown effects on children. I wish you luck. There isn't much research done in this field because of the rarity and the confounding factors often associated. I sincerely hope you get the diagnosis you need to pinpoint the best treatment, and soonest. It has always been a keen interest of mine, and I wish they would do some more research in the field to help kids such as your son. :huggy:

good luck to you both!
 

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
I feel your pain. I have a family member that is only 6 and has had to deal with similar issues.

I wish there was a wand to wave that would fix all the mental diseases children have to deal with.

I hope your son continues to do well, mentally and physically. :huggy:
 

latinamomma

Transam's wife
I know all too well about the mental health care of the TRI-Co area. My daughter has been to calvert hospital, shepp pratt, in and out of "theraputic" group homes and and has even had the "wrap around" program...it ALL failed her! The state has cut mental health so bad, that it isn't helping the kids at all!
The drs have said she is ADHD, PTSD, Bi-polar, etc and she has been on TONS and TONS of different meds....and still the system failed her.
My best advice to you, DO NOT SEND YOUR SON TO SHEPP PRATT EVER AGAIN! They are idiots there!
I feel your pain, I really, really do. I hope JH can help your son, I hope the system doesn't fail him.
HUGS
 

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
So sorry to hear you are going through something like this and how hard it must have been to post your story. Thank you for doing so. It may help another parent & child. :huggy:
 

MadDogMarine

New Member
The drs have said she is ADHD, PTSD, Bi-polar, etc and she has been on TONS and TONS of different meds....and still the system failed her.

Unfortunately we are going to see more and more of this type of failed medical help. Everything is driven by "patented" medicines, not whatever is best for the patient. I also have a particular aversion to all the vaccines that are mandated and the health impact they have on our poor children. More and more evidence continues to come out and more Dr's are taking a stand against them.

If I was in a similar situation, I would seek out alternative,natural remedies and/or naturpathic Dr's. Children have been helped greatly with a "detox" organic food protocol that cleanses the body.
I would also investigate use of LDN (low dose naltrexone). You can learn more about this at a DR's run yahoo group found here.
Autism_LDN : Autism LDN
The side effects are minimal with many experiencing wonderful results.
The cost is very low, is FDA approved.
You will find you may have to take the health care of your child into your own hands since many have an extremely difficult time finding an MD that will prescribe this non patented medication.

Also more here
lowdosenaltrexone : Low Dose Naltrexone

and here
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My thoughts and prayers with you during this difficult time.
 

Ange1icflowers

New Member
Update!!!

I just wanted to post a quick update on my child. He is on 2 different meds now, Trileptal (for the "bipolar like mood disorder) and Intuniv (for the ADHD) plus weekly therapy and has an IEP at school plus a BIP. Between working with the people who do work with him and teaching them to understand that he thinks differently (this has been difficult with his teachers especially) and you have to approach him differently to do things, we have gotten things working better. He is now taking the bus to AND from school! We have determined that to maintain peace in the household and the needed separation of "school" and "home" we will need to hire a tutor to help with homework, but I'm ok with that. I'm just happy I'm getting my happy little boy back!!!! I hope that my story can help another parent before things get too bad!
 

daylily

no longer CalvertNewbie
I just wanted to post a quick update on my child. He is on 2 different meds now, Trileptal (for the "bipolar like mood disorder) and Intuniv (for the ADHD) plus weekly therapy and has an IEP at school plus a BIP. Between working with the people who do work with him and teaching them to understand that he thinks differently (this has been difficult with his teachers especially) and you have to approach him differently to do things, we have gotten things working better. He is now taking the bus to AND from school! We have determined that to maintain peace in the household and the needed separation of "school" and "home" we will need to hire a tutor to help with homework, but I'm ok with that. I'm just happy I'm getting my happy little boy back!!!! I hope that my story can help another parent before things get too bad!

That's so great to hear and I hope everything continues to get better as time goes on. It's disturbing how difficult it can be to get help for a child nowadays, when they have their whole lives ahead of them. Good for you for not giving up hope and for fighting for what your son needs.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
Thanks for sharing that story and sorry to hear the troubles your boy and your family have been through.

Your story is certainly not unique, it may be worthwhile to share this beyond an internet forum, preferably through the newspapers. Whenever the state goes broke, they tend to cut services to the ones most in need. Bringing more attention to the issue can do nothing but help. The limited availability of resources for ped psych in southern maryland is something that can be fixed very easily: with money.
 

devinej

New Member
so glad that your son is doing better now. what a terrifying experience. This area is so, so lacking in resources for pediatric mental health. I bet we could fill up caseloads for 10 more child psychiatrists and 30 therapists. If they would take all the right insurances.

Maybe not widely known - the Tri-County Youth Services Bureau is a very low cost therapy alternative. Offices in all 3 counties. Short wait, if any.
 
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