Minimum Wage: $70,000 a Year

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
One Company’s New Minimum Wage: $70,000 a Year


His idea bubbled into reality on Monday afternoon, when Mr. Price surprised his 120-person staff by announcing that he planned over the next three years to raise the salary of even the lowest-paid clerk, customer service representative and salesman to a minimum of $70,000.

“Is anyone else freaking out right now?” Mr. Price asked after the clapping and whooping died down into a few moments of stunned silence. “I’m kind of freaking out.”

If it’s a publicity stunt, it’s a costly one. Mr. Price, who started the Seattle-based credit-card payment processing firm in 2004 at the age of 19, said he would pay for the wage increases by cutting his own salary from nearly $1 million to $70,000 and using 75 to 80 percent of the company’s anticipated $2.2 million in profit this year.




SEIU Rolls Out Astroturf at McDonalds
Fast food protests will begin Wednesday

“Many Americans may not realize the extent to which the SEIU has [invested] and propagated the Fight for 15 campaign,” Williams said during a Monday teleconference. “The union has invested upwards of $20 million in 2014, $50 million over the last two years in this ongoing effort of organizing fast food workers. This is a coordinated effort, an effort based on street theater.”

The union’s federal labor filings released in March showed that the SEIU spent nearly $4 million on the Fast Food Workers Organizing Committee in 2014, more than double its 2013 spending. It also pumped money into regional organizing committees, which are expected to serve as point-men to eventually organize workers. The East Bay Organizing Committee, for example, saw its SEIU allocations balloon to more than $1 million in 2014, triple the $300,000 it received in 2013.

The SEIU did not return a request for comment.

Glenn Spencer, vice president at the Chamber of Commerce’s Workforce Freedom Initiative, said that the majority of attendees are professional protesters and union agitators, rather than actual fast food employees.

“The protests aren’t about wages or working conditions, they are about promoting the SEIU’s campaign to unionize the fast food industry,” Spencer said in a release. “Yet after investing two years … in these PR stunts, the SEIU still struggles to find actual employees to participate, let alone express an interest in joining a union.”

The SEIU shells out big money to lucrative public relations firms to generate the good press of the “grassroots movement.” It spent $1.3 million on the services of liberal media relations giant Berlin Rosen in 2014, a 60 percent jump from its 2013 expenses.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
That $70k was about the same as earning $8,500 in 1960 when average income was about $5,000. So, by that measure it's pretty healthy.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
One Company’s New Minimum Wage: $70,000 a Year


His idea bubbled into reality on Monday afternoon, when Mr. Price surprised his 120-person staff by announcing that he planned over the next three years to raise the salary of even the lowest-paid clerk, customer service representative and salesman to a minimum of $70,000.

“Is anyone else freaking out right now?” Mr. Price asked after the clapping and whooping died down into a few moments of stunned silence. “I’m kind of freaking out.”

If it’s a publicity stunt, it’s a costly one. Mr. Price, who started the Seattle-based credit-card payment processing firm in 2004 at the age of 19, said he would pay for the wage increases by cutting his own salary from nearly $1 million to $70,000 and using 75 to 80 percent of the company’s anticipated $2.2 million in profit this year.

He will have major problems when someone busting there ass makes the same as a clerk. Doesn't work, just like communism didn't. Why should someone work harder for a raise?
 
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Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
SEIU Rolls Out Astroturf at McDonalds
Fast food protests will begin Wednesday

“Many Americans may not realize the extent to which the SEIU has [invested] and propagated the Fight for 15 campaign,” Williams said during a Monday teleconference. “The union has invested upwards of $20 million in 2014, $50 million over the last two years in this ongoing effort of organizing fast food workers. This is a coordinated effort, an effort based on street theater.”

The union’s federal labor filings released in March showed that the SEIU spent nearly $4 million on the Fast Food Workers Organizing Committee in 2014, more than double its 2013 spending. It also pumped money into regional organizing committees, which are expected to serve as point-men to eventually organize workers. The East Bay Organizing Committee, for example, saw its SEIU allocations balloon to more than $1 million in 2014, triple the $300,000 it received in 2013.

The SEIU did not return a request for comment.

Glenn Spencer, vice president at the Chamber of Commerce’s Workforce Freedom Initiative, said that the majority of attendees are professional protesters and union agitators, rather than actual fast food employees.

“The protests aren’t about wages or working conditions, they are about promoting the SEIU’s campaign to unionize the fast food industry,” Spencer said in a release. “Yet after investing two years … in these PR stunts, the SEIU still struggles to find actual employees to participate, let alone express an interest in joining a union.”

The SEIU shells out big money to lucrative public relations firms to generate the good press of the “grassroots movement.” It spent $1.3 million on the services of liberal media relations giant Berlin Rosen in 2014, a 60 percent jump from its 2013 expenses.

The costs of these campaigns are peanuts if they can unionize the fast food industry with it hundreds of thousands of employees. They will be raking in millions a week.
Its not about the employees, its about union dues.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Here's the thing about the 70K thing, while it sounds great and sure all the employees are going to be enthusiastic at first, what's going to happen long term? I mean, I admit, at first blush I was a little envious.

However, let's say I'm one of the supervisors. I have pressure, deadlines, additional years experience, college, etc., and I'm making exactly the same as my staff? How am I going to feel? Resentful? I'm doing all this damn work with all this experience and I'm making exactly the same as the guy who licks the envelopes. :burning:

Or let's say I'm the receptionist. I started out there, got lucky and always saw a potential for growth in my job. But now I'm making $70K. Why should I bother working harder? Why should I bother taking night classes? Why should I bother going the extra mile?
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
He will have major problems when someone busting there ass makes the same as a clerk. Doesn't work, just like communism didn't. Why should someone work harder for a raise?

First, this is his company and his choice. If we agree with, and support free markets, then there's no need to vilify this man for doing this.

Second, "someone busting their ass" could make more than 70k a year. He didn't say he was forcing everyone to get paid the same.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Here's the thing about the 70K thing, while it sounds great and sure all the employees are going to be enthusiastic at first, what's going to happen long term? I mean, I admit, at first blush I was a little envious.

However, let's say I'm one of the supervisors. I have pressure, deadlines, additional years experience, college, etc., and I'm making exactly the same as my staff? How am I going to feel? Resentful? I'm doing all this damn work with all this experience and I'm making exactly the same as the guy who licks the envelopes. :burning:

Or let's say I'm the receptionist. I started out there, got lucky and always saw a potential for growth in my job. But now I'm making $70K. Why should I bother working harder? Why should I bother taking night classes? Why should I bother going the extra mile?

Again, nothing points to him forcing people to have equal salaries.

He's got 120 staff members, and
The paychecks of about 70 employees will grow, with 30 ultimately doubling their salaries, according to Ryan Pirkle, a company spokesman. The average salary at Gravity is $48,000 year.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
First, this is his company and his choice. If we agree with, and support free markets, then there's no need to vilify this man for doing this.

Second, "someone busting their ass" could make more than 70k a year. He didn't say he was forcing everyone to get paid the same.

I not vilifying anyone. It's his business and can do what he wants. As a businessman who ran his own business for many years, I do not see his upside.
 

tommyjo

New Member
I not vilifying anyone. It's his business and can do what he wants. As a businessman who ran his own business for many years, I do not see his upside.

Happy, motivated employees??? A large article about his company in the NY Times? You don't see an upside?? I guess you wouldn't...since you don't understand the word minimum in the phrase "minimum salary".
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Happy, motivated employees??? A large article about his company in the NY Times? You don't see an upside?? I guess you wouldn't...since you don't understand the word minimum in the phrase "minimum salary".

How many employees do you have, sweetie?
 

tom88

Well-Known Member
Here's the thing about the 70K thing, while it sounds great and sure all the employees are going to be enthusiastic at first, what's going to happen long term? I mean, I admit, at first blush I was a little envious.

However, let's say I'm one of the supervisors. I have pressure, deadlines, additional years experience, college, etc., and I'm making exactly the same as my staff? How am I going to feel? Resentful? I'm doing all this damn work with all this experience and I'm making exactly the same as the guy who licks the envelopes. :burning:

Or let's say I'm the receptionist. I started out there, got lucky and always saw a potential for growth in my job. But now I'm making $70K. Why should I bother working harder? Why should I bother taking night classes? Why should I bother going the extra mile?

Did you read the article?

His idea bubbled into reality on Monday afternoon, when Mr. Price surprised his 120-person staff by announcing that he planned over the next three years to raise the salary of even the lowest-paid clerk, customer service representative and salesman to a minimum of $70,000
He isn't saying everyone is making that amount. That's the minimum. Sounds like he will get some pretty good employee loyalty out of this "stunt".
 

tom88

Well-Known Member
I not vilifying anyone. It's his business and can do what he wants. As a businessman who ran his own business for many years, I do not see his upside.

He's lowering his salary as he obviously doesn't need it. You don't see an upside to happy loyal employees? How many hard working people do you think are now hoping to get employed there?
 

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
He's lowering his salary as he obviously doesn't need it. You don't see an upside to happy loyal employees? How many hard working people do you think are now hoping to get employed there?

The ones there making 70K minimum better be good employees because there will be a line a mile long waiting for them to screw up and get fired! He should have no problem getting them to work hard to keep their job! IMHO
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
He's lowering his salary as he obviously doesn't need it. You don't see an upside to happy loyal employees? How many hard working people do you think are now hoping to get employed there?

Right on the nose. Dude already made his millions, and good for him. He could take nothing and still live he life of the rich and famous just just on his investment earnings. It's his money.

If this whole plan actually takes effect, which I hear it will be tried, there will still be different levels of income, just that the 70K would be the minimum. That buys a lot of happiness, for sure, if the company stays in business.

Everybody better be working hard, and loyally, though.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Did you read the article?

He isn't saying everyone is making that amount. That's the minimum. Sounds like he will get some pretty good employee loyalty out of this "stunt".

Actually what was on the news yesterday (him making the announcement) was everybody's salary was being increased by 70K a year.. not everyone making a minimum of 70k a year..
 

LibertyBeacon

Unto dust we shall return
First, this is his company and his choice. If we agree with, and support free markets, then there's no need to vilify this man for doing this.

Yep, there is nothing wrong with doing something like this voluntarily without the violent force of government required.

I am suspicious of the motives though, considering this is Seattle, that hotbed of capitalist activity.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Yep, there is nothing wrong with doing something like this voluntarily without the violent force of government required.

I am suspicious of the motives though, considering this is Seattle, that hotbed of capitalist activity.

Instead of vilifying him we should be shouting..

LOOK, Capitalism WORKS!!
 

LibertyBeacon

Unto dust we shall return
Instead of vilifying him we should be shouting..

LOOK, Capitalism WORKS!!

Indeed.

On the surface, this is the essence of pure capitalism -- employers offering high salaries in order to attract and retain high quality talent. The problem is that if Bob's salary doubles, that doesn't mean that Bob is going to be twice as productive.

So while this is great on the surface, there simply is no way to survive in business if you're putting yourself at a great cost disadvantage relative to your competitors. Salary should match productivity output, and that's a very difficult balancing act. ECON 101: supply and demand curve. Pay too much and you're at a competitive disadvantage. Pay too little, and your competitors will come snap up your best employees.

In short, setting artificial floors makes little business sense.

I do wonder: why the press announcement about this? Why not just do it and STFU about it?
 
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