More Halliburton BS

[Bruzilla]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101041101-733760,00.html

This gal's all a'flitter over the fact that Halliburton people were in the room while they were discussing contract terms, and that a five-year award was given instead of a one. I wonder how she would have responded had she seen me, as a contractor, writing the proposal and contract requirements for my government customer because he didn't know how to. Sure it was illegal, but it was what was needed to get the job done, and stuff like this happens 20 times a day.

 

[willie]

I know nothing about the workings of a government contract but I am a voter and a Republican voter. A one year contract doesn't seem like enough time to get things into a stable operation but 5 years, with the winning contractor writing it, seems shady to me. If you are saying that the 5 years for a no bid contract is the norm then they should do a much better job of explaining it to us voters.

 

[J.South]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101041101-733760,00.html

This gal's all a'flitter over the fact that Halliburton people were in the room while they were discussing contract terms, and that a five-year award was given instead of a one. I wonder how she would have responded had she seen me, as a contractor, writing the proposal and contract requirements for my government customer because he didn't know how to. Sure it was illegal, but it was what was needed to get the job done, and stuff like this happens 20 times a day.

And I wondered how Ole Halliburton got away it. If you're writing your own contracts you could be robbing your customer blind. Of course, you would not do that. Halliburton sure has the capacity to do it. Check their other shady dealings in africa and iran.

 

[Bruzilla]

A lot of government customers have their contractors write the paperwork and agreements. This normally doesn't result in fraud or waste, but it does hamper the competitive process. For example, I've seen RFPs where the description of a job title like " Electrical Engineer" has been changed to "An electrical engineer with at least 22 years of experience with these specific systems, a specific four-year degree, experience with unrelated systems, etc." Basically, they take the qualifications of a person they employ and make it dang near impossible for another person with those exact qualifications to be found.

The problem with a 1-yr contract is that there are a lot of long-lead items that need to be procurred that often aren't in place within one year. Also, funding doesn't arrive immediately, but the work has to get started, so the company needs to pony up the initial funds out of pocket. As a result, they're normally paying for long-lead and support items that go well beyond one year since economy-of-scale purchasing results in better prices for five-years worth of stuff over one year's worth. Lastly, it's tought to get people to sign on to work for you when the work is ony assured for one year.

 

[J.South]

My whole point is that the FAR Federal Aquistion Reg. Prohibits this. If she was supose to sign it her azz is would be on the line just like the people you wrote the the proposal and contract requirements for. I think she's was just looking for her own azz This was before Halliburton's shady (not illegal but, iffy) past was brought to light so we say its liberal's fantasing again.

 

[Bruzilla]

I'm just saying that the media is playing this up as something that only Halliburton does, and it's really something that just about every contractor does on a daily basis.

 

[Ken King]

My whole point is that the FAR Federal Aquistion Reg. Prohibits this. If she was supose to sign it her azz is would be on the line just like the people you wrote the the proposal and contract requirements for. I think she's was just looking for her own azz This was before Halliburton's shady (not illegal but, iffy) past was brought to light so we say its liberal's fantasing again.

As I read the article, Queentree was there to help write the contract, she advised that the contractors that came in should leave, they left, the government officials put the requirements down, she objected to the five-year term, the final paper work came forward with the five-year term, she signed it and sent it forward. Where is the problem with the FAR?

Concerning the no-bid nature of the contract, Part 6.3 of the FAR covering “Other than Full and Open Competition” is how it came about. Nothing sinister other than people trying to tie Cheney into the mess because a company the he once was CEO for, that is the only one that specialized in the specific needed services, received the contract.

 

[J.South]

I dont even believe Chaney was brought up in this article. What I got from the articles is that Queentree was watching her azz on something that does not appear to be ethical and is getting reamed for it. Bottomline Ole' Halliburton rips off the government again.

 

[Ken King]

You do understand the usage of the paragraph don't you? They are for separating ideas. The first paragraph spoke to the article and what Ms. Queentree said took place, the second spoke to no-bid contracts and as to why all of this is news today.