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Originally posted by vraiblonde
Help me understand the rant and what John Snow has to do with it. :confused:
Read how he labeled it again (Liberal rant), any further explanation required?
 

jlabsher

Sorry about that chief.
John Snow was CEO of CSX. Typical republican caring for employees. OH WAIT, now he's the secretary of the treasury.

Bush and big businesses (enron, halliburton, csx) who care about America. Right!
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by jlabsher
John Snow was CEO of CSX.
But he didn't preside over this axing and ticket buying, did he?

Bush and big businesses (enron, halliburton, csx) who care about America. Right!
Every President and big businesses. Do you think politicians just sprang from the womb, with no previous job history?

Enron happened during the Clinton Administration, not Bush.

Cheney sold his Halliburton stock when he ran for VP - he no longer has a vested interest in their financial standing.

Big business employs more people than, say, Greenpeace. Help me understand why that's bad?
 

vraiblonde

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A good conspiracy would be if the Texas Rangers won the World Series - then everyone could say Bush "fixed" it because he used to own them.

:lol:
 

jlabsher

Sorry about that chief.
Cheney receives over $350K a year from Halliburton, his stock has been places in a "charitable trust", he still owns over 180,000 shares and has options on 500,000 shares. Doesn't sound divested to me. Enron was a large supporter of the Bush campaign and Bush and Lay were budzos. CSX has given over $2M to republican causes & soft money in the last 2 years.

Birds of a feather.
 

vraiblonde

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Makes perfect sense that big business would support Republicans - they're more "business friendly". Think about it. Who would you support for President - some guy who wants to gut your company and create more expenses for you OR some guy who wants to cut your taxes and make it easier for you to run your company?

Powerful guys are all budzos with each other - it's like a fraternity. Clinton had all kinds of big business buddies and so did every other politician in history. I'd lay money that Bush and Lay weren't really "friends", as in they got together for beers and TV. Probably more like business acquaintences.

Check that Cheney story - I'm almost positive he completely cut financial ties with Halliburton and sold all of his stocks.
 

Otter

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dated 9/26/2003

(CBS/AP) A report by the Congressional Research Service undermines Vice President Dick Cheney's denial of a continuing relationship with Halliburton Co., the energy company he once led, Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Thursday.

The report says a public official's unexercised stock options and deferred salary fall within the definition of "retained ties" to his former company.

Cheney said Sunday on NBC that since becoming vice president, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."

Democrats pointed out that Cheney receives deferred compensation from Halliburton under an arrangement he made in 1998, and also retains stock options. He has pledged to give after-tax proceeds of the stock options to charity.

Cheney's aides defended the assertion on NBC, saying the financial arrangements do not constitute a tie to the company's business performance. They pointed out that Cheney took out a $15,000 insurance policy so he would collect the deferred payments over five years whether or not Halliburton remains in business.

Lautenberg, D-N.J., asked the Congressional Research Service to weigh in.
Without naming Cheney or Halliburton, the service reported that unexercised stock options and deferred salary "are among those benefits described by the Office of Government Ethics as 'retained ties' or 'linkages' to one's former employer."

Lautenberg said the report makes clear that Cheney does still have financial ties to Halliburton. "I ask the vice president to stop dodging the issue with legalese," Lautenberg said.

Cathie Martin, Cheney's spokeswoman, said the question is whether Cheney has any possible conflict of interest with Halliburton, "and the answer to that is, no."

Cheney was chief executive officer of Halliburton from 1995 through August 2000. The company's KBR subsidiary is the main government contractor working to restore Iraq's oil industry in an open-ended contract that was awarded without competitive bidding.

According to Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure report, the vice president's Halliburton benefits include three batches of stock options comprising 433,333 shares. He also has a 401(k) retirement account valued at between $1,001 and $15,000 dollars.

His deferred compensation account was valued at between $500,000 and $1 million, and generated income of $50,000 to $100,000.

In 2002, Cheney's total assets were valued at between $19.1 million and $86.4 million.

Earlier this month, a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit that accused Halliburton and Cheney of misleading investors by changing the way the company counted revenue from construction projects.

The lawsuit was filed last year by Judicial Watch, a conservative public interest group, on behalf of three small investors, who said the company tried to polish financial results by booking revenue on cost overruns before it was certain of getting paid.

Halliburton has contracts worth more than $1.7 billion for its work in Iraq, and it could make hundreds of millions more from a no-bid contract it was awarded by the Army Corps of Engineers, The Washington Post has reported.

According to The Post, while Cheney was defense secretary the Pentagon chose Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root to study the cost effectiveness of outsourcing some military operations to private contractors. Based on the results of the study, the Pentagon hired Brown & Root to implement an outsourcing plan. Cheney became Halliburton CEO in 1995.
 

vraiblonde

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Thanks, Otter! I thought he had severed all financial ties to Halliburton.

JLab, I stand corrected. But I still don't see what John Snow has to do with the CSX story. :shrug:
 
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