"My Liberal Views are Ruining my Ability to Parent"

So for a self-proclaimed intelligent, critical thinker why doesn't she understand that what she is experiencing and understanding to be a problem in her small, little world is exactly the same problem on the larger scale of life? :confused:

I’m a diehard, bleeding-heart liberal. And it’s ruining my parenting.

My intentions are good. I want my two daughters, 6, to think critically, to fight for fairness and justice whenever they can. I want them to value equality above all else. But sometimes, I also need them to do what I say. This contradiction is hard to explain.

Take a recent incident, involving some candy. I’d given each girl the same number of gumballs. But one of my daughters lost some. She then implored me for extra. “Now I have less and that’s not fair,” she moaned.

“But they’re my candy! It’s not my fault we lost some of hers!” the other one replied.

My solution — to put all the gumballs together in one bowl and split them equally — was unacceptable to both. All afternoon, they threw tantrums, slammed doors, or tried to slyly outwit me, crumbling when I didn’t fall for it.

“How about we keep our own gumballs and I get an extra other kind of candy that she doesn’t get?” said one.

“Why am I being punished for her missing candy?” asked the other.

Three hours later, the result was the same as it would’ve been had I taken a sterner approach from the get-go: We did what I said. But what should have taken five minutes took three hours, and everyone was in a bad mood.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/poste.../im-a-diehard-liberal-it-ruined-my-parenting/
 

Tami2red

New Member
:doh: :shocked:

Being Liberal doesn't ruin her parenting. Being a bad parent does. I raised 5 kids. I'm a "Liberal" by most standards, although I definitely have some Conservative views. My kids DID NOT act like hers.

BOUNDARIES. IT's all about boundaries. You can let kids have opinions and input. But ultimately you are their PARENT not their FRIEND. (The friend part comes in later when they are 'grown' and it's awesome.) What the PARENT says goes. PERIOD.

People like her give "Liberals" a bad name. :smack:

:cussing:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
Being Liberal doesn't ruin her parenting. Being a bad parent does.
I didn't gather that she was a bad parent. In fact, it was the opposite. The same rules and guidelines she tried to instil in her children were the same rules and guidelines they used against her. Smart kids.
 
I didn't gather that she was a bad parent. In fact, it was the opposite. The same rules and guidelines she tried to instil in her children were the same rules and guidelines they used against her. Smart kids.
I agree. And that she is admitting her ideals don't work as a parenting style and is adjusting accordingly shows it. But I don't understand why she has yet to reach the conclusion that not all adults are her definition of "adult thinkers" so her ideals are not going to work as world order policy either. :ohwell:
 

Tami2red

New Member
I didn't gather that she was a bad parent. In fact, it was the opposite. The same rules and guidelines she tried to instil in her children were the same rules and guidelines they used against her. Smart kids.

I totally agree with you in that she has VERY smart kids. My point is that (and she also points it out) that age appropriate idealism is WAY better than what she did. I don't think she set appropriate boundaries and respect for authority (the parent).

I've actually seen this happen with some family and friends. And as those children have grown I've had to listen to their parents complain that these "adult" children have a theirs hand out, gimmee gimee attitude. (One in fact threw a temper tantrum because the parents were taking a long awaited, well earned vacation yet refused to buy said child a car or give him money. Said child was 23.)

THAT is what bothers me about this.

I firmly believe too many parents have had parenting approaches like that and it's causing this country's decline into a 'hands-out' mentality. And that is across the board - regardless of social/financial class.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
So for a self-proclaimed intelligent, critical thinker why doesn't she understand that what she is experiencing and understanding to be a problem in her small, little world is exactly the same problem on the larger scale of life? :confused:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/poste.../im-a-diehard-liberal-it-ruined-my-parenting/

I remember reading this last week and wondering about her kid misunderstanding "fair".

I teach my children "fair is getting exactly what you deserve, good or bad".

For that reason alone, they should be extremely grateful that life isn't fair, because if you always got what you deserve, you'd be freakin' miserable.

On the flip side of that, if life WERE fair, that means you deserved every bit of crap you've ever been dealt.
 

acommondisaster

Active Member
:doh: :shocked:

Being Liberal doesn't ruin her parenting. Being a bad parent does. I raised 5 kids. I'm a "Liberal" by most standards, although I definitely have some Conservative views. My kids DID NOT act like hers.

BOUNDARIES. IT's all about boundaries. You can let kids have opinions and input. But ultimately you are their PARENT not their FRIEND. (The friend part comes in later when they are 'grown' and it's awesome.) What the PARENT says goes. PERIOD.

People like her give "Liberals" a bad name. :smack:

:cussing:

If you think her decision to redistribute wealth was bad parenting, then you're not the liberal you think you are. :lmao:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
So minor decisions that should be left to the parent (like, say, wearing tights without holes in them) become ruthless, time-consuming battles that add unnecessary dissonance to their lives.

See, and I think wearing tights with no holes is an unnecessary battle. Let the kid wear ratty clothing, then save the battle for when she wants to go to a co-ed slumber party.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
I remember reading this last week and wondering about her kid misunderstanding "fair".

I teach my children "fair is getting exactly what you deserve, good or bad".

For that reason alone, they should be extremely grateful that life isn't fair, because if you always got what you deserve, you'd be freakin' miserable.

On the flip side of that, if life WERE fair, that means you deserved every bit of crap you've ever been dealt.

They didn't misunderstand fair, they were using the definition of fair they learned from mom. She was the one who wanted to collect all of them and redistribute them equally. It's classic liberal justice - they started out equally, but one was not as responsible as the other. But instead of looking at the equal oppurtunity that they were both provided she only saw the unequal outcome.

BTW, how does someone who overuses commas as bad as I do get a job for the WAPO?
 

Tami2red

New Member
They didn't misunderstand fair, they were using the definition of fair they learned from mom. She was the one who wanted to collect all of them and redistribute them equally. It's classic liberal justice - they started out equally, but one was not as responsible as the other. But instead of looking at the equal oppurtunity that they were both provided she only saw the unequal outcome.

BTW, how does someone who overuses commas as bad as I do get a job for the WAPO?

:yeahthat:

BTW ~ I use a lot of ... can you get me a job there? :razz:
 

Tami2red

New Member
If you think her decision to redistribute wealth was bad parenting, then you're not the liberal you think you are. :lmao:

I think her decision to 'redistribute the wealth' WAS bad parenting. On many levels. And teaching that is leading to what this country is becoming.

But I AM a liberal. I AM! I AM! I AM! *stomping feet*

Now, gimmee your candy!
 
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