My Trump Portfolio vs My Obama Portfolio

TPD

TPD

the poor dad
I manage my own investments - buy stocks direct, don't use an advisor, regular automatic investments with dividends reinvested when available, use software specifically made for tracking individual portfolios, participate in an investment club. Today, I'm updating my buys and sells and decided to check my portfolio performance under the last 2 presidents. Here is what I found. Numbers are based on Friday's stock market close and include realized and unrealized gains/losses.

This year to date, Jan 1 2020 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 10.07% vs Dow .3% vs S&P 9.92% vs Nasdaq 39.08%

Since the day Trump was elected till yesterday, Nov 8 2016 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 13.08% vs Dow 11.95% vs S&P 13.16% vs Nasdaq 22.8%

During Obama's term, Election day Nov 4 2008 to Election day Nov 8 2020, my investments had an annualized rate of return of 11.52% vs Dow 8.37% vs S&P 9.87% vs Nasdaq 14.29%

So far I am 1.5% better annually under Trump than Obama. If you look at the major indices, Trump's stock market is better than Obama's - Dow +3.58%, S&P +3.29%, Nasdaq +8.51%

I believe these numbers to be accurate based on all available information at this time. If I get 4 more years of Trump with numbers similar to above, I will definitely be retired before he leaves office in 2025. I know a lot can happen with the market in the next 16 days and will be updating the numbers the day after the election.
 
Hessian

Hessian

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But Obama did ALL the work to rebuild the economy and Trump claims all the credit!
I have heard this vacuous opinion before...and the first thing that comes to mind: the speaker knows so little about how our economy works.
Obama mocked Trump with "What's he gonna do? Wave a magic wand?"
More proof that Obama had little experience and apathetic interest in trying to empower our economy.
To him, we were exploitive, polluting, and immobile like an Indian Caste system. He refused to accept the wisdom of Reaganomics, and totally failed with his "Shovel-ready" jobs. That raving Socialist lunatic Reich still has loyal followers screaming for the 15.00 min wage when it has proven to cripple jobs over & over. So...even when our retirement accounts are clear proof of Trump's formula...we are still saddled with outright idiots who are so much smarter and cling to failed dogmas of socialism. November 3rd...prosperity or collapse.
 
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pontificator

Active Member
TPD said:
I manage my own investments - buy stocks direct, don't use an advisor, regular automatic investments with dividends reinvested when available, use software specifically made for tracking individual portfolios, participate in an investment club. Today, I'm updating my buys and sells and decided to check my portfolio performance under the last 2 presidents. Here is what I found. Numbers are based on Friday's stock market close and include realized and unrealized gains/losses.

This year to date, Jan 1 2020 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 10.07% vs Dow .3% vs S&P 9.92% vs Nasdaq 39.08%

Since the day Trump was elected till yesterday, Nov 8 2016 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 13.08% vs Dow 11.95% vs S&P 13.16% vs Nasdaq 22.8%

During Obama's term, Election day Nov 4 2008 to Election day Nov 8 2020, my investments had an annualized rate of return of 11.52% vs Dow 8.37% vs S&P 9.87% vs Nasdaq 14.29%

So far I am 1.5% better annually under Trump than Obama. If you look at the major indices, Trump's stock market is better than Obama's - Dow +3.58%, S&P +3.29%, Nasdaq +8.51%

I believe these numbers to be accurate based on all available information at this time. If I get 4 more years of Trump with numbers similar to above, I will definitely be retired before he leaves office in 2025. I know a lot can happen with the market in the next 16 days and will be updating the numbers the day after the election.
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You forgot to account for inflation over the Trump presidency so far.

You're probably close to even or doing worse under Trump.
 
Grumpy

Grumpy

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Hessian said:
But Obama did ALL the work to rebuild the economy and Trump claims all the credit!
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Then Clinton must have done all the work to get us to 9/11, but of course those 8 months in office meant that Bush got us to 9/11.,
 
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limblips

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
TPD said:
I manage my own investments - buy stocks direct, don't use an advisor, regular automatic investments with dividends reinvested when available, use software specifically made for tracking individual portfolios, participate in an investment club. Today, I'm updating my buys and sells and decided to check my portfolio performance under the last 2 presidents. Here is what I found. Numbers are based on Friday's stock market close and include realized and unrealized gains/losses.

This year to date, Jan 1 2020 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 10.07% vs Dow .3% vs S&P 9.92% vs Nasdaq 39.08%

Since the day Trump was elected till yesterday, Nov 8 2016 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 13.08% vs Dow 11.95% vs S&P 13.16% vs Nasdaq 22.8%

During Obama's term, Election day Nov 4 2008 to Election day Nov 8 2020, my investments had an annualized rate of return of 11.52% vs Dow 8.37% vs S&P 9.87% vs Nasdaq 14.29%

So far I am 1.5% better annually under Trump than Obama. If you look at the major indices, Trump's stock market is better than Obama's - Dow +3.58%, S&P +3.29%, Nasdaq +8.51%

I believe these numbers to be accurate based on all available information at this time. If I get 4 more years of Trump with numbers similar to above, I will definitely be retired before he leaves office in 2025. I know a lot can happen with the market in the next 16 days and will be updating the numbers the day after the election.
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TPD said:
I manage my own investments - buy stocks direct, don't use an advisor, regular automatic investments with dividends reinvested when available, use software specifically made for tracking individual portfolios, participate in an investment club. Today, I'm updating my buys and sells and decided to check my portfolio performance under the last 2 presidents. Here is what I found. Numbers are based on Friday's stock market close and include realized and unrealized gains/losses.
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You Trumpers, always showing off your investments. It only shows how stupid you are. There is no need to invest your hard earned money because when us Dems take over everything we need will be free and we can spend our money on things we want.

I suppose I should attach this so the spankers understand. :sarcasm:
 
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gunsmoke

Active Member
TPD said:
I manage my own investments - buy stocks direct, don't use an advisor, regular automatic investments with dividends reinvested when available, use software specifically made for tracking individual portfolios, participate in an investment club. Today, I'm updating my buys and sells and decided to check my portfolio performance under the last 2 presidents. Here is what I found. Numbers are based on Friday's stock market close and include realized and unrealized gains/losses.

This year to date, Jan 1 2020 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 10.07% vs Dow .3% vs S&P 9.92% vs Nasdaq 39.08%

Since the day Trump was elected till yesterday, Nov 8 2016 to Oct 16 2020, my investments have an annualized rate of return of 13.08% vs Dow 11.95% vs S&P 13.16% vs Nasdaq 22.8%

During Obama's term, Election day Nov 4 2008 to Election day Nov 8 2020, my investments had an annualized rate of return of 11.52% vs Dow 8.37% vs S&P 9.87% vs Nasdaq 14.29%

So far I am 1.5% better annually under Trump than Obama. If you look at the major indices, Trump's stock market is better than Obama's - Dow +3.58%, S&P +3.29%, Nasdaq +8.51%

I believe these numbers to be accurate based on all available information at this time. If I get 4 more years of Trump with numbers similar to above, I will definitely be retired before he leaves office in 2025. I know a lot can happen with the market in the next 16 days and will be updating the numbers the day after the election.
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IF your numbers are true, good for you! (I am guessing they are wrong as your 2020 YTD numbers for the SP500 are wrong and you are using the wrong date comparisons. But hey this is somd.com..facts are always alternative.)

Semantics: you can't have an "annualized" return for a period of less than 1 year. You have a year to date return.

You do understand that your numbers for Presidential Administrations are wrong because you are using the wrong dates....you know that right? You know that Presidential terms of office do not begin in Nov...you know that right?

And, of course, using actual admin start dates thru current calendar date...the S&P 500 under Obama was up 80.7%..vs Trump up 53.4%.

And, of course (Hessian, you listening???), stock market performance is not tied in the least to President terms of office. If we had a dictatorial form of government, concluding that Presidents had some magic sway over the investment markets might be believable, but not in a representative democracy.

And, of course(Hessian you listening), the stock market is NOT the economy. Odd how so many of you informed voters don't seem to understand this basic fact.
 
Hessian

Hessian

Well-Known Member
gunsmoke said:
And, of course (Hessian, you listening???), stock market performance is not tied in the least to President terms of office. If we had a dictatorial form of government, concluding that Presidents had some magic sway over the investment markets might be believable, but not in a representative democracy.

And, of course(Hessian you listening), the stock market is NOT the economy. Odd how so many of you informed voters don't seem to understand this basic fact.
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Not so fast Smoker....
Have a glance at Forbes,...you may change your perspective (or you may not)...
(History can be instructive)☕
www.forbes.com

Here’s How The Stock Market Has Performed Before, During, And After Presidential Elections

While trying to speculate the market reaction to a Trump reelection or Biden victory may not be worthwhile, historical trends about stock market performance before, during, and after presidential elections can help set expectations for wary investors.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
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