New Aptera update

glhs837

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I'm looking at that front suspension and subframe. Crazy amount of milling and finishing. Can't see how that's sustainable at the cost point.
 

Sneakers

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I'm looking at that front suspension and subframe. Crazy amount of milling and finishing. Can't see how that's sustainable at the cost point.

The first run "production intent" vehicles are machined, but the production run vehicles will be poured/molded/cast/etc.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


For your consideration ...
The first run "production intent" vehicles are machined, but the production run vehicles will be poured/molded/cast/etc.


A plastic body, or as they say, "ultra-lightweight composites." Whatever could go wrong there? If ever in a accident, could be total destruction. I'll wait to see what the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration say after they crash test these things.
 

glhs837

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The first run "production intent" vehicles are machined, but the production run vehicles will be poured/molded/cast/etc.

That cutover is what has me wondering. Very different processes requiring very expensive machinery. Which explains why they need another infusion of cash. The lack of an Amazon/Saudi sugar daddy like Rivian and Lucid have is showing.

For your consideration ...


For your consideration ...


A plastic body, or as they say, "ultra-lightweight composites." Whatever could go wrong there? If ever in a accident, could be total destruction. I'll wait to see what the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration say after they crash test these things.

So there is a steel safety cage inside the composites. But it wont ever be subjected to NHTSA or IIHS testing. That's part of the reason for three wheels vs four. Its not an automobile, its legally an "autocycle" like the Polaris Slingshot.
 

Sneakers

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But it wont ever be subjected to NHTSA or IIHS testing.
They have a series of crash tests planned and have redesigned based on 3D crash simulations.
Very different processes requiring very expensive machinery.
If you follow along with the public media, they have talked in detail about the machining, testing, the PI1 thru PI4 (PI - production intent) builds, and costs/financing. Pretty open about everything. The only thing they weren't so open about until the last minute was the change from wheel hub motors to an internal motor with drive shafts. Caught many by surprise.
 

glhs837

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They have a series of crash tests planned and have redesigned based on 3D crash simulations.

If you follow along with the public media, they have talked in detail about the machining, testing, the PI1 thru PI4 (PI - production intent) builds, and costs/financing. Pretty open about everything. The only thing they weren't so open about until the last minute was the change from wheel hub motors to an internal motor with drive shafts. Caught many by surprise.


So the crash tests will be based on all "applicable" standards. And that is the thing. No standards apply to three wheelers. I'm sure they will do crash testing, I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes. My main point was that the testing we see normal passenger cars go through will most likely not be the same you see the Aptera go through.

I've not said they have not been open. Just that road from where they are to where they want to be isn't going to be ab easy one.

I'm not surprised by the shift away from hub motors. Like rotary engines, they just sound so damn good on paper you cant help but want them to work.
 
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