Midnightrider
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You should have continued reading
NFL Takes A Knee ....
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PsyOps
Pixelated
I did. Telling in what way?You should have continued reading
Midnightrider
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If you did why would you say you didn't?
It's says right there.
Yes because that’s like saying all cancer smatter at a Breast cancer walk. It’s obvious if you aren’t a moron all cancers and all
Lives matter. A group advocating for one at a particular time shouldn’t threaten you unless you are a snowflake
I’ve seen you post racist terms and statements on here more than once but good try
PsyOps
Pixelated
No, all you did was attempt - rather poorly - to provide your own interpretation of what I posted.
I want to know what I posted told you. What was telling?
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Midnightrider
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It's telling because you claim you don't dispute their reason to protest but you spend the entire first paragraph disputing their reason. You go on to claim that they should be thankful despite acknowledging systemic racism in your lifetime.
you ready to get outraged over the disrespect those people waving an enemy's battle flag are showing to those who fought to keep the USA free?
PsyOps
Pixelated
I thought I clarified that I was talking about the football players. Allow me to clarify further... I don't give a damn if they want to protest, albeit there is no central reason for the protest. I disagree with the premise that there is systemic racism in this country; but if they want to protest that go right ahead. It's BLM that I don't give a damn about because they are a racist hate group aimed at inciting and inflicting violence when the opportunity is there. If they had peaceful means behind their message I would have more respect for their protests.
My core problem has been and still is their choice of time and place of their protest. You and they show you are incapable to looking at our flag and having an appreciation for what men and women have done to make this country the most free country in the world - FOR EVERYONE! You're incapable of showing some damn gratitude for the fact that it was because of their sacrifices you can get on here and get as hateful as you do, and not have to face someone busting down your door because you crossed some tyrannical line. You won't face consequences for tearing down a propaganda poster, get arrested, tortured and sent home a vegetable, only to evendualy die a horrible death. You won't be sent any prison for expressing yourself, no how many insulting and inflammatory things you say. You can call the president anything you want without reprisal. You're living proof that this is the greatest country in the world for two reason: the first I just outlined, and 2) you remain here. If you thought it was better somewhere else, you'd go there. Same with Kaepernick and any other person that feels they are oppressed.
Kneeling during the Anthem and posting of the flag is saying "that flag doesn't represent me". Well, if it doesn't, what would? What would you prefer in place of this system we have that our flag represents?
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Funny how you weren’t concerned about our veterans and people who suffered for our freedom when Trump said”
I only like people who don’t get captured”
About John McCain.
Just because this is the greatest country in the world doesn’t mean we have to be happy with the problems that do exist. Yes we are grateful we were born here but that doesn’t mean POC should be treated differently by police and the judicial system. And just because you are blind to the fact or willfuly ignorant that they are doesn’t make it true.
People with means advocating for those that don’t have means is part of what makes the country great and if that makes you uncomfortable for the four minutes our anthem plays maybe you will stop thinking about only yourself and start thinking about how others are treated in this country.
It is not lost on any of the protestors that they are privileged to be able to protest. That doesn’t mean everything else in the US is honky Dory. Why can’t you understand that?
black dog
Free America
I'll go with If my forefathers were snatched off the Gold / slave coast of Africa and brought here a few hundred years ago and today i'm a free man to seek my life as i see fit, work where I want to work, get a college education if i like, start a business. You are god damn right I would be thankful.
I've spent time in Central Africa, I would suggest that any black folks that believes that are being held down in America, Should spend some time back in their African fatherland checking out the lifestyles of what they would still be doing if the still lived in Africa. And that's if you family tree was still around.
In fact I really wonder how many blacks here today had forefathers that actually were slaves in America.
This article And accompanying video sum it up very succinctly.
I suggest those who believe these players are protesting the flag watch this and really listen.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/28/16378846/nfl-protests-trump-nick-wright
I suggest those who believe these players are protesting the flag watch this and really listen.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/28/16378846/nfl-protests-trump-nick-wright
PsyOps
Pixelated
I don't believe they are protesting the flag. They are protesting what they believe that flag represents - oppression and brutality. They are choosing the time of the posting of the flag to protest, when I believe they should be looking at that flag with a sense of thankfulness, and reflecting on what was done to protect their freedom to protest while that flag is posted.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Please, go back and find what I said about that.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
You are completely clueless as to what the flag represents to me. As I said before, I stand for the flag. I don't see an honest protest as disrespectful, but I do see laziness and vainty (the hundreds of white folks who don't take their hats off at games) as disrespectful. You confuse my ability to understand their position as me holding that same position.
Your comments about BLM are just as ridiculous as if I was to say that all cops are racist trying to kill black people.
Get over it. It's their protest to have, and they are not protesting the flag or anything it represents anymore. They are protesting trump. How you think others should view the world is immaterial
PsyOps
Pixelated
You're right. I completely expect you to just be miserable, and hateful; but it's what you have been conditioned to do.
How is it I am capable of experiencing some pretty bad things in my life, and still be able to look at this country as a whole and realize those bad things don't define this country? I watched a video of an old Jewish woman who survived the Holocaust. She had a twin sister. Her parents were stripped from both of them and they never saw them again, at the age of 7. She had horrible experiments done on her and her sister because they were twins. The details were really upsetting.
Yet, in the end she went on living a happy life and found it in her to forgive Mengele and another doctor (who was still alive at the time). She was able to actually write a letter of forgiveness to this former Nazi doctor and hand it to him. Why would she do this? Because she saw the world as much bigger and better than what she suffered. She made the choice that harboring all the hate wouldn't make her happy or satisfied. She refused to live her life that way.
THAT is what this country is about; something bigger than your own complaints about it. Sure, complain, do something about it; but do it with a sense of thankfulness that you CAN do something about it. You're free to do so. But still be thankful.
Well you are wrong again. And willfully ignorant. Which is proven by the fact you didn’t bother to watch the video so your opinion is now moot. If you continue to not educate yourself about an issue and stubbornly stick by your initial opinion you deserve to be ignored.
The last paragraph of the article absolutely applies to you as evidenced by your statement above.
I will no longer engage with you on this subject
It didn’t stop you from voting for him so your words mean nothing. You voted for a sexist, homophobic racist who continually insults veterans. You can say whatever you want but your actions are what count.
Toxick
Splat
So does this mean you agree that taking a knee during the anthem is a sign of disrespect to the United States?
Nope. If you’ve noticed many of the players are kneeling with their hands on their hearts facing the flag. You can see they are trying to be respectful while still
Advocating for those who don’t have a voice. Good try though.
LightRoasted
If I may ...
If I may ...
There will always be racism and bigotry and discrimination. From and by all races. From the beginning of time to the end of time. So what is it you darkies want? Everything you touch turns to sh*t. Just look at the DC and Baltimore governments. Nearly every law under the sun has been created just for you to have exceptional opportunities to succeed in education, business and employment, and, yet, you still are not happy. So again, what the F**K is it that you want!? Be please be god damn specific.