No harm? Most illegals in Mississippi ICE raids stole Americans' identities

Kyle

Just being a fly in the ointment...
PREMO Member
Most of the 680 illegal immigrants nabbed in August’s immigration raids at poultry plants in Mississippi worked under stolen American identities, the Department of Homeland Security’s top investigator told Congress Thursday, rebuffing Democrats who insisted the “undocumented” workers were doing no harm.

“They stole the IDs of 400 U.S. citizens,” said Jere Miles, who leads Homeland Security Investigations’ New Orleans office. “Where’s their voice?”

 

transporter

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Most of the 680 illegal immigrants nabbed in August’s immigration raids at poultry plants in Mississippi worked under stolen American identities, the Department of Homeland Security’s top investigator told Congress Thursday, rebuffing Democrats who insisted the “undocumented” workers were doing no harm.

“They stole the IDs of 400 U.S. citizens,” said Jere Miles, who leads Homeland Security Investigations’ New Orleans office. “Where’s their voice?”

It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...

More galling, according to the Democrats who convened the hearing, is that none of the managers at the poultry processing businesses has been charged.
If there is no punishment for hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

But....but....but...
 

black dog

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PREMO Member
SO,,,,,,,you cant tell me that the illegals didn't know they were buying stolen ID`s? Are you that dumb,,,,,,,
After working for 10 years with Spanish in the irrigation industry, 97 out of 100 had fake ID's they knew they were fake, back then a SS card that was bubble jet printed on Avery business card stock an a green card, And they were sold to them by other Spanish that had been here for a few years.
 

Clem72

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It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...
Identity theft refers to the misuse of credentials, not the collection of them. If I steal your wallet, I am guilty of theft. If I use your ID from that wallet to open a bank account and take out a loan, I am guilty of Identity Theft. All of these people working and living under someone else's credentials committed identify theft.
 

terbear1225

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It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...



If there is no punishment for hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

But....but....but...
how about we punish ALL parties involved. those who stole the IDs, those who used them knowing full well they were stolen AND anyone who knowingly hired someone that was using a fake ID.
 

SamSpade

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What surprises me is that you KNOW if they have a SSN or card, that it is stolen or fake. No one cares.

But do the same on YOUR taxes, and you'll be in some serious chit.
 
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This_person

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It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...



If there is no punishment for hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

But....but....but...
They know that they are here illegally, and they know that they are being identified by a name not their own.

You're uncharacteristically right in that others also deserve charges and punishment, but none of that diminishes what these criminals deserve.
 
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black dog

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What surprises me is that you KNOW if they have a SSN or card, that it is stolen or fake. No one cares.

But do the same on YOUR taxes, and you'll be in some serious chit.
It used to be on the federal paperwork a reminder to business owners that they are not LE... Checking authentication of paperwork was not their responsibility..
 

Monello

Awww, jeez
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It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...


If there is no punishment for hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

But....but....but...
You would make a good magician with your redirect plus smoke & mirrors.

So let's go after the guy who buys stolen goods and let the burglar go free. After all that is what is pertinent here. Drug pushers get a pass, it's those evil dope users that are the real problem.

This is the paperwork loophole. I've worked with people that the employer and everyone else on site knew were illegal. But they have documents that pass e-verify. So the employers gets a pass. This loophole needs to be removed. Another work around is employers are now hiring through a temp agency. So the temp company is suppose to do the vetting of the employee. When things go sideways, the employer can say they weren't direct employees.

What needs to happen is anyone found employing illegals needs to be charged. Doesn't matter how good the documents are. Worse still is the place that employs dozens or hundreds of illegals. They need to sit in a cell for a while and consider there actions.
 

22AcaciaAve

Active Member
It is not reasonable to conclude that the illegals are the ones who stole the identities...it is more reasonable to conclude that someone else stole the IDs and they were sold to the illegals for their use. Who actually stole the IDs is a pertinent question and then there is this line from the article...



If there is no punishment for hiring illegals, the problem will continue.

But....but....but...
You are probably right on this. They didn't steal the identities, they purchased them. So what should be done is the ones with the illegal identities should be cataloged and deported, with the understanding that if they are caught again in this country they will be housed for life in one of our jails. We also need to go after those who stole the identities in the first place and jail them for life once caught. As for the punishment for those who hire them...if they knew they were hiring illegals then the business should be disbanded and the owners should face jail time. Make the penalties so severe that nobody wants to risk hiring illegals and no illegals want to risk coming here and the problem will be solved. Problem is that democrats don't want to do that. So much so that they refuse to cooperate with ICE and many of them want it disbanded. Hard to solve a problem when one political party simply wants to look the other way.
 

littlelady

God bless the USA
You are probably right on this. They didn't steal the identities, they purchased them. So what should be done is the ones with the illegal identities should be cataloged and deported, with the understanding that if they are caught again in this country they will be housed for life in one of our jails. We also need to go after those who stole the identities in the first place and jail them for life once caught. As for the punishment for those who hire them...if they knew they were hiring illegals then the business should be disbanded and the owners should face jail time. Make the penalties so severe that nobody wants to risk hiring illegals and no illegals want to risk coming here and the problem will be solved. Problem is that democrats don't want to do that. So much so that they refuse to cooperate with ICE and many of them want it disbanded. Hard to solve a problem when one political party simply wants to look the other way.
They look the other way because it is part of their march to full control of US. Period. God bless the USA.
 
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