i guess that emans any cult is protected and no parent can protct their children from it so long as the other parent has been brainwashed?
No religious homeschooling allowed!!
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kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
Bob I realize you despise all forms of religion, BUT it is protected by the Constitution, you know that thing you swore an OATH to protect and defend. So because you frown upon religion you think that everyone who does believe needs to have a psych eval?
If the mother is not doing anything to endanger her children and the judge orders an evaluation on the affidavits from the father and the grandfather then I feel that the judge is wrong in ordering this. Now, if something comes out about the mother's behavior then that may change things. The articles say nothing of what the children think in this case. A psych eval order should be based on testimony from the children also.
kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
So now it's a cult? Based on what? A disgruntled ex-husband's testimony? Most atheist think that ANY religion is a cult, Baptists believe Catholics are cultish. Where would the line be drawn?
Cowgirl
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I don't necessarily think that's true. The church the mother belongs to discourages its members from celebrating birthdays and holidays. Sounds like that is a big change from how the kids were being raised. I think the father has every right to challenge the mother. The kids were in public schools at one point, so it's not like the father brought this up out of the blue.
itsbob
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Vince
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Who said the church was a cult? Who said the mother was brainwashed? The father? Why is he right and the mother is wrong. Because certain people have no belief in a religion, who are they to say that religion is not valid or someones belief are not valid. Keep your beliefs to yourself and allow others to practice their religious freedom.
Cowgirl
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And why doesn't that apply to the mother?
Vince
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Why can't she teach her children her beliefs? And the father has just as much right to teach his when he has custody. If mothers and fathers didn't teach their children about religion how do you think it would get passed down from one generation to another, magic?And why doesn't that apply to the mother?
itsbob
I bowl overhand
There has to be a line drawn somewhere between religion, fanaticism and cultism..
The Baptist church that marches on the funerals o four soldiers and claims the problems of this country are the 'fags'.. I believe they've crossed the line.. BUT under the law they are protected as a 'religion' and nothing we can do to stop them.
What if a religion was based on pedophilia.. they interpreted the bible that not only was screwing an 8 year old child acceptable but necessary path to heaven.. should we leave them to practice their beliefs? As what they do is their concern?
The Sound Doctrine is just another cult operating under the protections of religious freedom.. The father doesn't want his children poisoned or brainwashed by these people, but the power of the church outweighs the wants and needs of the childrens own father. Unless you can prove he's a psycho case, I believe his wants and needs supercede ANY church as far as the upbringing of HIS children.
If your ex-wife was raising your kids and homeschooling them under the watchful eyes of the Westboro Baptist Church what would you do? I wouldn't allow my children to be raised with that kind of hate, and that definiton of right and wrong.. I'd do whatever I could to to get them out, but under the protections of the law guess what, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on, as Baptists, and Westboro are protected under the same articles of the Constitution.
when you do a search online the frist page you come to is the church's the second is "are there going to drink the koolaid soon?" or something like that. apparently, some people think this is a cult.
as for her stability. her own father is siding with his soon to be ex son in law. Maybe that is what makes the judge think the husbands claims have validity....
The judge obviously has the same anti-religious biases as some of you all.
You could consider any religion a "cult":
You could consider any religion a "cult":
But does that make it harmful? I say no, it does not. If the kids were testing at or above their grade level, that should be the end of it - case dismissed and Daddy can go back to boinking his secretary so Mom can resume her homeschooling.
kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
Home schooled since 05 and Jehovah Witnesses don't do holidays bdays etc. As far as I know.
We either want to raise our own children or we want some judge to do it. I vote for judges to stay out of our business unless a crime has been committed. If the Dad doesn't like the way Mom is raising the kids, he can try for custody. Otherwise he should shut up about it.
what do you think he is going to do if the mental eval comes back saying she is crazy?
foodcritic
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I think if I am not mistaken that the Amish and Menonite don't celebrate birthdays either. Please correct me if I am wrong - only if you know for sure. Are they considered a cult? I have to agree with Vraiblonde that unless there is a crime committed judges should stay out of our business and the father should seek custody.
jetmonkey
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No wonder he had an affair, he married a wack-a-do.
Go "Hah!" and resume his secretary boinking, knowing that he scored a point on the ex.
If you thought your ex was detrimental to your children's welfare, wouldn't you sue for custody as opposed to making a stink about her religious homeschooling? Maybe this woman is nutty - I have no idea and know nothing about her church. But the Dad doesn't seem so much interested in his children as he is fighting with their mother.
"I don't want to raise my children - I just want to tell *her* how to do it."
i doubt that his intention is to leave them with her. this is probably just one of many steps in the custody battle.
I know my ex and i fought over a similar topic. I relented because my child was young and wouldn't fall behind, and it ony lasted a few months before she figured out she was in over her head. Eventually i decided to go for cutody and a judge agreed i was the more suitable parent. But that wasn't my first course of action. we had several "battles" and went through mediation on two occasions before an actual custody case was heard.